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Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by bjt »

wrboyce wrote: post #149
grey-area wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another approach to this is to stop looking for a job with a salary and strike out on your own as a contractor/company. If you have contacts in the industry already, this isn't as hard as it might seem, and makes it far easier to truly work remotely without being tied to one specific office. Having said that from experience (I did Paris-London for a while) I think you'd find it hard to telecommute or work remotely be…

I don't agree with your statement at all. The company I work for (and have been with for about two years) has employees across more timezones than I care to count (I am based in London, my colleagues across the US, Panama, Brazil, Switzerland, Italy, Bulgaria, Russia and probably some others I've forgotten -- with one person soon moving to Australia) and we don't have any real issues. We even manage to have a daily s…

We do this with developers in the US, Canada, Latin America, and western Europe. We use plenty of IRC, Hangouts, and of course, email.

A lot of our recruitment has been done through networks of contacts in the open source community, which I think starts us out with a pool of self-motivated people who can communicate well over the internet.

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by laureny »

redguava wrote: post #199
laureny wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good points, but personally, I have never played along with the "We'll pay you just a bit more than what you are making right now". When the question "How much do you make right now?" comes up in an interview, I answer "How much I make right now is irrelevant, here is how much I want if I'll be working for you" (said with more tact, obviously).

As a hirer, I'll always ask what they make now. But I'll also ask are they happy with that salary. There's no point using it as a basis if they are not, but if they are, it's a good starting point.

> As a hirer, I'll always ask what they make now.

How would you react if the candidate gave you the answer I typically give in this situation? ("my current salary is irrelevant, here is how much I want")

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by hadem »

crabasa wrote: post #185
bbx wrote: post #47

I've been searching for a remote job for the last few months. This site comes in really handy. Listing remote jobs isn't new (for example, Authentic Jobs has a clear call-to-action to filter them), but focusing on them is interesting. What I've learned so far is that a remote job is not exactly what I thought it was. Considering the mostly globalized state of the web (and even the internet), I thought "remote" meant…

We're trying to build a work space and community for people who do true remote work in Seattle. We hope this model spreads: http://devlocal.io

Didn't you just contradict yourself?

"True remote work in..."

When I think of "true remote work" I think of a job where location does not matter.

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by marincounty »

mgkimsal wrote: post #187
brdrak wrote: post #160

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Linux user for 15 years, Debian/Ubuntu exclusively for the past 7 or so. IMO, it's without question that the Desktop experience is better every year, now to a point where it just works 99.9% of the time (in my experience, anyway). Haven't had a any problems with sound or multiple monitors in a while (using both Nvidia and ATI video cards). Of course people will and should use whatever they want. I have to touch Windo…

Not annoyed by the question, more bemused. Every few months as I meet new people, I routinely get a linux fan telling me how awesome everything is on desktop linux. It's the same enthusiastic fanboyism that drew me in in 99/2000. When ubuntu came out, the "everything just works" mantra was pushed heavily in the circles I was in, but... everything didn't work. The fact that you had a nice installer - great. My wireles…

"just works!" but not for Mavericks. I wish I didn't download it. I now need to hand over more money to Microsoft. Something I never thought I would do. Office 2004 doesn't work.

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by kibibu »

quaffapint wrote: post #165
atmosx wrote: post #116

I'm not a professional developer but I would be very interested even in low-salary junior developer job in Ruby. But most jobs posting I see require excellent knowledge of virtually every technology out there . I wonder how many developers are excellent at: * UNIX admin (setting up sql + nginx + unicorn on BSD/Linux) Rails/JS/CSS3/HTML5 * TDD * Excellent Closure and/or Scala * Virtualisatin/scaling/concurrency (put a…

My favorite is this one from FogCreek... Incredible coding skills. Your friends and coworkers describe you as an "animal." ...A little intimidating ain't it? Not sure what an animal developer truly is.

> Your friends and coworkers describe you as an "animal." You don't shower, you have a thick covering of fur, and you growl at strangers.

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by Moto7451 »

marincounty wrote: post #204
mgkimsal wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not annoyed by the question, more bemused. Every few months as I meet new people, I routinely get a linux fan telling me how awesome everything is on desktop linux. It's the same enthusiastic fanboyism that drew me in in 99/2000. When ubuntu came out, the "everything just works" mantra was pushed heavily in the circles I was in, but... everything didn't work. The fact that you had a nice installer - great. My wireles…

"just works!" but not for Mavericks. I wish I didn't download it. I now need to hand over more money to Microsoft. Something I never thought I would do. Office 2004 doesn't work.

Office 2004 is a PPC app and stopped working in Mac OS 10.7

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by davegardner »

JasonPunyon wrote: post #138
ryanjshaw wrote: post #129

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[status-reopen] http://imgur.com/zZRveUH

Where in the world is ryanjshaw? (Where are you accessing careers from? We might not be advertising in your area.)

I'm in Australia and see the same results as ryanjshaw.

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by skrebbel »

redguava wrote: post #198
netcan wrote: post #55

This is a more general comment about job postings in general - Why are salary ranges so seldom listed. If you look at a lot of leading job boards even the company name isn't listed (recruiters). Isn't salary a basic piece of information that every job listing should have?

It's very hard to do for remote jobs. An appropriate salary is relative to the country you live in.

I never understood this. Shouldn't the salary be relative to the amount of value I add? Two people doing the same work, but one decides to rent a $3000,- apartment in SF and the other lives in North-east Veszprem. Why would a company pay the first guy more? Or the second guy less? Would feel very unfair if you're the second guy.

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Post by chc »

jnbiche wrote: post #126
kirillzubovsky wrote: post #113

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If he is serious about actually working and making a living, oDesk is not the right place to work. I wrote about it a few days ago - https://medium.com/startup-shenanigans/66896bbf21da - cheap labor and sup-par clients, yeah, oDesk is definitely not the place.

Not to mention that a good portion (I'd say about 20-30%) are asking for blatantly illegal or unethical activities (e.g., scraping proprietary data, building spyware, etc.)

My experience: I signed up there out of curiosity a few years ago and I believe within a day received a request to build a tool for comment spamming.

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by grey-area »

wrboyce wrote: post #149
grey-area wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another approach to this is to stop looking for a job with a salary and strike out on your own as a contractor/company. If you have contacts in the industry already, this isn't as hard as it might seem, and makes it far easier to truly work remotely without being tied to one specific office. Having said that from experience (I did Paris-London for a while) I think you'd find it hard to telecommute or work remotely be…

I don't agree with your statement at all. The company I work for (and have been with for about two years) has employees across more timezones than I care to count (I am based in London, my colleagues across the US, Panama, Brazil, Switzerland, Italy, Bulgaria, Russia and probably some others I've forgotten -- with one person soon moving to Australia) and we don't have any real issues. We even manage to have a daily s…

Thanks for the informative counter-example - it's certainly possible, and congratulations on your company's success. I agree communication is key to keeping things going, and perhaps in tech companies this is easier (my work was in publishing at the time, quite an old-fashioned industry).

The managers I was interacting with were not technically minded, so that might make a difference, email was the main medium. But the problems I saw as a small company were more related to staying in touch with disparate clients and cultivating work over the long term than working day to day - the people making subcontracting decisions tended to forget you were there if you were never in the client office. This might depend on size and industry as well as communication - smaller companies probably depend on networking more than larger ones.

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