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A Wretched Google Interview Experience

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Re: A Wretched Google Interview Experience

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There's something odd with this page that causes Safari to jam up and use 100% CPU. It shows up as "Processing Math 0%" in the lower left corner while doing this. Is there some kind of renegade JavaScript going on here?

It's for processing the typesetting of mathematical expressions. See MathJax.

Re: A Wretched Google Interview Experience

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post #117

I had a very similar experience. I work at an investment bank and was recruited by a large company that does proprietary trading including high frequency trading. I went for the interview which was scheduled to be an all-day thing. In addition to having been in IT for a very long time I am also very knowledgeable on capital markets having successfully taken CFA (Chartered Financial Analyst) tests. The CFO of the comp…

Honest question, I'm really curious. If you're actually making $250,000 why would you want to work anywhere else?

Plenty of such jobs are mind-numbing, soul-crushing and lead nowhere.

Re: A Wretched Google Interview Experience

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post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>>>You're interviewing the workplace as much as they're interviewing you. Not nearly enough people realize this. If they're asking you corny questions in the interview, how does that reflect on their company? OP said they didn't even ask him questions about his resume - just these corny trivia questions. If I was there, I would've asked how someone thinks this is relevant to doing my job at Google. After the past th…

Interesting idea popped into my head... If candidate is not going to ask good questions about the job and experiences and responsibilities and challenges and the company, should the interviewer torture the candidate with random pages from Knuth until candidate either asks a good question or breaks or runs out of time. (say yes! say yes!) The other idea that popped into my head is we could develop a new "secret geek c…

> Interesting idea popped into my head... If candidate is not going to ask good questions about the job and experiences and responsibilities and challenges and the company, should the interviewer torture the candidate with random pages from Knuth until candidate either asks a good question or breaks or runs out of time. (say yes! say yes!)

General etiquette for this sort of sitch seems to be to allow the person with more leverage to lead. Most of the formulaic/cold interviews I've had they'll get to the end and then ask you if you've got any questions.

Re: A Wretched Google Interview Experience

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post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've interviewed at and worked for a number very very large companies before, and none of them have been as disrespectful at interviewing and hiring as Google sounds from these stories. I'm not defending this practice at all, but I think I can understand it. It sounds like the typical problems involved in scheduling 10 people to all perform together at once. Nobody can prevent people from getting sick. Going out of t…

you say flaky, I say assholes who don't respect others' time. And way to move the goalposts re: your friend would be happy comment. I think what would have made his friend happy is to be treated with respect. Similarly with your bitterness comment; it's not bitter, it's letting the world know you and your colleagues believe it's right to treat people this way (because if you all didn't think this was ok, then you wou…

I'm not defending the hiring practices at all; on some level, we lose out on a lot of qualified candidates who would do great work and would be great to work with. I'm not a recruiter, but I try to help out however I can; people on HN regularly email me asking for advice, or to ping their recruiter, and so on, and I'm happy to do this. I want to work with you, and I don't want the intrinsic flakiness of people to adversely affect your experience. But ultimately, I can't control other people, I can only control myself.

All my other comment is saying is how to think about the problem from another perspective. You have a lot to offer Google, but Google is not exactly coming up empty on its end. Therefore, I think it makes sense to cut Google some slack. But if you don't, that's your prerogative. I personally don't aim for 100% perfection 100% of the time, but some people do, and that is respectable.

(Oh, and I don't think complaining about the interview on your blog is bad at all. What's "bitter" is refusing to come back for a second try, even though you still are kind of interested in working at Google.)

Re: A Wretched Google Interview Experience

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post #117

I had a very similar experience. I work at an investment bank and was recruited by a large company that does proprietary trading including high frequency trading. I went for the interview which was scheduled to be an all-day thing. In addition to having been in IT for a very long time I am also very knowledgeable on capital markets having successfully taken CFA (Chartered Financial Analyst) tests. The CFO of the comp…

Honest question, I'm really curious. If you're actually making $250,000 why would you want to work anywhere else?

I went on the subject interview two years ago when I was at the 4 year mark of my current employer. The reason I was looking is because my current employer was being acquired and all of us received a letter stating, "We will tell you in x months whether you have a job or not." It turned out about 80% of my coworkers got laid off but I did not. But I didn't know it was going to turn out that way at the time.

I'm not interviewing now, but honestly they're just trying to figure out a way to cut me out of the picture without torpedoing the business I support. Eventually they'll find a way though realistically it's another year away. I have one fall back company I can go to in a snap at equal pay and I do side consulting about 15-20 hours per week so I'm not worried enough at this point to be interviewing.

Re: A Wretched Google Interview Experience

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've interviewed at and worked for a number very very large companies before, and none of them have been as disrespectful at interviewing and hiring as Google sounds from these stories. I'm not defending this practice at all, but I think I can understand it. It sounds like the typical problems involved in scheduling 10 people to all perform together at once. Nobody can prevent people from getting sick. Going out of t…

It's interesting to see that the Google employees commenting in this thread are OK with people being treated this way. It reveals a lot about the culture. No wonder you fail so badly at customer service. Maybe you have been at Google so long that you don't realise it, but this is not a normal or decent way to treat somebody. I can't think of anybody I know who would want to work there after going through that intervi…

Please read my reply below. I'm personally not OK with screwing over candidates, but I can understand why fuckups happen from time to time.

If you're having problems with the process, never hesitate to send me an email. jrockway AT google.com.

Re: A Wretched Google Interview Experience

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There's something odd with this page that causes Safari to jam up and use 100% CPU. It shows up as "Processing Math 0%" in the lower left corner while doing this. Is there some kind of renegade JavaScript going on here?

It's for processing the typesetting of mathematical expressions. See MathJax.

Well, it would be nice if it actually worked instead of jamming up Chrome and Safari completely.

Re: A Wretched Google Interview Experience

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've interviewed at and worked for a number very very large companies before, and none of them have been as disrespectful at interviewing and hiring as Google sounds from these stories. I'm not defending this practice at all, but I think I can understand it. It sounds like the typical problems involved in scheduling 10 people to all perform together at once. Nobody can prevent people from getting sick. Going out of t…

It's interesting to see that the Google employees commenting in this thread are OK with people being treated this way. It reveals a lot about the culture. No wonder you fail so badly at customer service. Maybe you have been at Google so long that you don't realise it, but this is not a normal or decent way to treat somebody. I can't think of anybody I know who would want to work there after going through that intervi…

From my perspective, the naysayers (including you) are personifying google to make them look worse. Two interviewers leave on business trips without notice, and the people remaining scrambled to get something together. The system couldn't handle this exception, so everything got screwed up. It's not like they lead him on only to harass him.

Re: A Wretched Google Interview Experience

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An acquaintance of mine applied for a product management job, did two interviews in NY that went fine, then was flown out to MTV for a series of interviews. When this person got there, two of the people they were supposed to meet with were traveling on business and hadn't notified the recruiter. A third was out sick. The supposed-to-be fourth, now first interview walked into the room and said, "Look, I don't have any…

I've interviewed at and worked for a number very very large companies before, and none of them have been as disrespectful at interviewing and hiring as Google sounds from these stories. I'm not defending this practice at all, but I think I can understand it. It sounds like the typical problems involved in scheduling 10 people to all perform together at once. Nobody can prevent people from getting sick. Going out of t…

Actually, no, it doesn't just happen that people go out of town and miss an interview. Not in normal places.

Now, let's say there was some royal but completely understandable cockup where this guy completely spaced that this day was the interview or whatever. Fine. Where was the recruiter in this? Who was in charge of the process, and why didn't they realize that an interviewer was unavailable sometime in advance?

If I get an interview with a company and then just neglect to show up, odds are they will not give me a second chance unless I had a good reason, something more than just "I forgot". Why should things be any different if the roles are reversed?

Re: A Wretched Google Interview Experience

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post #104

I think this is very unfortunate. I've seen a lot of good candidates get rejected for no obvious reasons. The lack of communication seems driven I think by the sheer deluge of the number of resumes/interviews going on at Google, and what appears to be, a reliance on temps and contractors as part of the process. I had a friend who interviewed at Google, who is an excellent software engineer I've worked with for years,…

> Given the sheer size of Google Microsoft has more employees and the three times I interviewed with them (and got accepted) it was a great experience, with perfect communication from their recruiters and interviewers. The one time I interviewed with Google (and got accepted, but I rejected them for MS) I pretty much went through a similar experience as the blog post, although the interviews themselves weren't bad, j…

When I was at Google, I was told over and over again that blind allocation was necessary because no other method of placing employees would scale to Google's size.

Whenever I pointed out that the bigger the company, the more teams there would be to absorb and place incoming employees, the googlers in question would just ignore the response and emphasize that blind allocation was necessary because no other method of placing employees would scale to Google's size.

Sigh...

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