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Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by tgrass »

smackfu wrote: post #132
msluyter wrote: post #37

As someone who's successfully lost a lot of weight on a low carb / no grain diet, this chart irks me. That a handful of almonds has the same calories as a certain amount of Captain Crunch is irrelevant. The latter will quickly convert to glucose in your body, however, (unlike almonds) and that will make a huge difference in your satiety levels, insulin response (Hello, Metabolic Syndrome!), etc... [1] Some good resou…

To be honest, everyone thinks the diet that worked for them is great, and all the other ones are bullshit. Most people will lose weight on any restrictive diet they stick to. Most people can't stick to a diet.

His comment could have been made without mention of his having dieted.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by grecy »

whatusername wrote: post #192
grecy wrote: post #178

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You're still making it way too complicated. If I put 10 gallons into my tank every day, but use 11 gallons daily.. I'm "using up" gas. That's all that matters. Of course, there are many, many, many tweaks to be made, but for the majority of people, who need to lose a massive amount of weight, if they eat less calories than they use, they will lose weight. End.

That's because it is more complicated. Feel tired and lethargic after a big carny meal? Guess what - your body is driving on econo-mode and burning less fuel.

> Feel tired and lethargic after a big carny meal? Guess what - your body is driving on econo-mode and burning less fuel.

Which means you have to adapt and eat (ever) less calories.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by enraged_camel »

kareemm wrote: post #198
aplusbi wrote: post #128

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The question is why do you choose the Paleolithic era as your cut off? We evolved the ability to consume dairy and grains about 10,000 years ago. If you are basing diet on what we evolved to eat, why do you exclude foods that we evolved to eat?

Evolutionarily speaking, 10k years is a drop in the bucket. The paleo diet postulates that while we can eat daily and grains, we haven't evolved to do so b/c 10,000 years is too small a period in which to do so.

This is incorrect, and there are many examples to prove it. For example, alleles conferring lactose tolerance increased to high frequencies in Europe just a few thousand years after animal husbandry was invented. Similarly, recent increases in the number of copies of the gene for salivary amylase, which digests starch, are related to agriculture.

Basically, the response to the change of the environment of a species depends on three factors:

1. Heritability 2. Intensity of the selection 3. Number of generations that selection acts.

What this means is that 10,000 can be more than sufficient to fully evolve the ability to eat and digest dairy and grains.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by kjackson2012 »

jdg wrote: post #150
kjackson2012 wrote: post #138

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There are plenty of ways to lose weight. Cutting calories is a very effective way of losing weight. This doesn't discount the fact that cutting carbs also works. In my case, it has been working spectacularly. I believe that I don't need to cut calories or cut the amount of food I eat, and still lose weight, by choosing food that is very low in carbs. I limit myself to 1 granola bar per day, plus whatever incidental a…

Cutting calories is the only way to lose weight. Cutting carbs typically means people end up eating less calories, because protein is more satiating. "Eating the same diet, just a lot less carbs" If you're eating less carbs, that's 4 calories less for every grab of carbs you've cut out. If previously you were eating around 200g of carbs everyday (probably on the low end, honestly) you've now removed around 800 calori…

I mentioned I kept track of all the food I ate in June 2012, and even after increasing my calories after going on low-carb, I still lost weight. What part of that did you not understand?

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by Torrents »

grecy wrote: post #200
elijahtaylor wrote: post #191

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> You're still making it way too complicated. Maybe it just is that complicated (not that I view the above as complicated, I just don't view it as simple as you make it). > If I put 10 gallons into my tank every day, but use 11 gallons daily.. I'm "using up" gas. That's all that matters. Imagine an engine that behaves differently depending on the type of fuel is put in it. One type of fuel causes the engine to move s…

> The output you get from the engine varies depending on what is put in it. Of course, that's why you have to constantly Analyze how much fuel your body is burning, and reduce the rate accordingly. > The type and amount of "calories in" affect your energy level (calories out) and hunger level (ability to limit your caloric intake). Indeed, though again, that doesn't impact the basic statement: If you eat less energy…

I think you are ignoring the fact that many people are able to eat way more calories than they burn, yet those extra calories simply don't convert to fat. I am not excessively active yet I eat significantly more calories than many people I know, yet I don't gain weight.

From things I've read [1] it seems that the vast majority of people consume more calories than they 'burn' but only in some people is it converted to unwanted weight gain. The real question, as many people have been referring to, is how do you determine whether your body hangs onto the extra calories as weight or simply disposes of it.

Saying "If you eat less energy than you burn, you will lose weight" is certainly true, but is akin to saying: "If you never get in a car your chances of dying in a car accident are significantly reduced." It's true...but not really helpful or meaningful.

1 - http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307474259

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by stan_rogers »

tocomment wrote: post #32
peterwwillis wrote: post #19

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They also have (on average) ~12g protein and 1.5g fat. At a little over 20% of the carbs you need per day, it's not going to ruin your diet, but could have an unhealthy effect on blood sugar levels in some people [ http://www.phlaunt.com/lowcarb/19060174.php ]

Are pumper nickel bagels much better? That's what I've been telling myself ...

That really depends on what you mean by "pumpernickel". If you mean black rye flour bread, it's not significantly different from any other grain-flour bread. If you mean rye meal bread ("real" pumpernickel), it would have significantly higher fat and caloric content (it's much denser than a flour bread, containing very little in the way of gas pockets, and uses more of the seed).

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by jobowoo »

tgrass wrote: post #201
smackfu wrote: post #132

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To be honest, everyone thinks the diet that worked for them is great, and all the other ones are bullshit. Most people will lose weight on any restrictive diet they stick to. Most people can't stick to a diet.

His comment could have been made without mention of his having dieted.

I think smackfu is referring to folks not being able stick tot he low carb / no grain diet.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by analog »

Dirlewanger wrote: post #180
analog wrote: post #95

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It's 1g per lb of lean weight. That would be for a beginner, trained athletes aren't going to be putting on so much muscle so won't need so much protein. Correct on the steroids and fasting though.

Even 1/g per pound is too much. A perfectly optimal level for bodybuilders is around .82g per pound. One can extrapolate from there for those not seeking hypertrophy. - http://mennohenselmans.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-...

Those studies all focus on trained individuals. As a novice you would be putting on more muscle than a trained bodybuilder or strength athlete.

It's worth pointing out as well that there is no disadvantage to consuming too much protein.

Strength standards for beginners.

http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards....

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by stephenhuey »

grecy wrote: post #200
elijahtaylor wrote: post #191

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> You're still making it way too complicated. Maybe it just is that complicated (not that I view the above as complicated, I just don't view it as simple as you make it). > If I put 10 gallons into my tank every day, but use 11 gallons daily.. I'm "using up" gas. That's all that matters. Imagine an engine that behaves differently depending on the type of fuel is put in it. One type of fuel causes the engine to move s…

> The output you get from the engine varies depending on what is put in it. Of course, that's why you have to constantly Analyze how much fuel your body is burning, and reduce the rate accordingly. > The type and amount of "calories in" affect your energy level (calories out) and hunger level (ability to limit your caloric intake). Indeed, though again, that doesn't impact the basic statement: If you eat less energy…

Myth: For a long time people have claimed that calories in just needs to be below calories out. Recent studies have confirmed that not all calories affect us the same way when it comes to weight gain and loss.

http://healthland.time.com/2011/06/23/study-the-best-and-wor...

Put a stop to this myth. The type of food actually matters!

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by smackfu »

tgrass wrote: post #201
smackfu wrote: post #132

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To be honest, everyone thinks the diet that worked for them is great, and all the other ones are bullshit. Most people will lose weight on any restrictive diet they stick to. Most people can't stick to a diet.

His comment could have been made without mention of his having dieted.

Yeah, but in my experience, the people going around saying "calories are stupid" are invariably supporters of low carb diets. (Because no one else cares.)
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