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You don't need two computers.
But this thing will need two window managers to be useful and applications optimized for touch AND mouse/keyboard. Is rather have two computers. It's not like carrying a phone is a hardship.
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Well, you're assuming they would need a new UI. You know what would be really nice to have on a phone if it didn't take any real effort to get it there? bash, ssh, nfs/sshfs/samba, etc. I know the typical user isn't going to care, but I could see how it would be a big win for developers , and as we all know, "developers developers developers."
That didn't work out for Maemo. Is this time going to be different?
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Excellent point, they must have strong tie-ups with OEM partners, who can make in-expensive devices, otherwise its not going anywhere.
They may package the distro Cyanogenmod-style.
Canonical is always trying to make itself more relevant by chasing the new hotness. First it was copying Windows. Then it was copying the Mac. Then tablets. Now smartphones. Unfortunately, the open source nature of their efforts means that they can never supply a meaningful value-add, even if they had as much money as their competitors.
Those swiping gestures from the edges look incredibly cumbersome and awkward. It may look cool in a demo, but performing that repeatedly to use my phone throughout the day looks to be a bad experience.
The n9 does this. It's actually really enjoyable. I've been using it for a few months. I find myself so used to it I keep trying to do it on android phones. The n9 form factor does suit these gestures because it has a screen with smoothly bevelled edges that entices you to swipe.
I'm feeling lazy after the holidays. Does anyone have a good argument for why any smartphone manufacturer (or carrier) would choose Ubuntu Phone over official or opensource Android? EDIT: OK, I've broken down and watched the video. Sounds like an important featre is the unified enterprise management with existing Ubuntu servers and desktops. I wonder if this will prove attractive to the remaining Blackberry holdouts?
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"I wonder how this is going to conflate with their ongoing focus on the desktop towards python + gtk apps." Are they?. IMHO they are making Unity and everything else use Qt. Python could use Qt too. I had a lot of apps that used gtk, it was ok in the past when the license of Qt was not LGPL, but now I'm porting everything to native and Qt.(luckily I abstracted the UI). Gtk just has not serious support for OpenGL, mac…
> Python could use Qt too. Can . Pyside is very mature for GUI building now. My concern is that the Ubuntu phone OS might not be beefy enough to run a bunch of python interpreters for apps, or that it might not come with one stock.
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Yeah, I loved that, but it wasn't a mobile OS, it was just Ubuntu running as an Android app. It didn't even have a UI om the phone, IIRC.
No it isn't an app. It is actually the full Ubuntu OS running on your android device. The point wasn't for it to be a touch screen, the point was that you could dock your device and suddenly be using a full desktop OS with all your desktop grade applications.
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> IMHO, Unity sucks pretty hard on the desktop I used to agree with this but it has gotten incrementally a lot better in the last couple of releases. I've watched non-geeks figure out how to use it without trouble, and after all the biggest potential market for a Linux desktop OS is the population of non-geeks.
> it has gotten incrementally a lot better I keep hearing people say this, I keep trying it again and I keep being disappointed and going back to Xfce. I mean, every time you press Alt, the menu bar at the top of the screen flashes. That's a horrible, distracting misfeature encountered in the first 30 seconds of using the thing. Not likely to try desktop Unity a fourth time, no matter how many people say “it's gettin…
How else are you going to access the menu with the keyboard?
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Well, you're assuming they would need a new UI. You know what would be really nice to have on a phone if it didn't take any real effort to get it there? bash, ssh, nfs/sshfs/samba, etc. I know the typical user isn't going to care, but I could see how it would be a big win for developers , and as we all know, "developers developers developers."
That didn't work out for Maemo. Is this time going to be different?