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Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by gffrd »

fernandotakai wrote: post #113
gffrd wrote: post #72

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These are modern infomercials. Concrete pains ("planning a vacation is hard!"), shallow solutions that don't stand up to real-world use, and, in the end, a promise left unfilfilled. (And a thing in your drawer that takes up space.)

honestly, one day i will understand why these guys go so hard on planning vacations. one of the best parts of vacations is actually planning it! trying to find restaurants, organizing your days, trying to fit activities -- that makes you look forward to your time off. really, i want to automate the boring parts of my life (did i really pay rent this month?) not the things that make me happy.

I think they're grabbing at universally-understood frictions that people associate with pleasure or anxiety … or, most powerfully, identity.

We all know the feeling of wanting to be successful, or to go on a great vacation. Showing these scenarios creates strong emotional response in the audience - we're now the people winning at work, going on a great vacation. This is especially important when you're selling something dull. See: insurance.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by 0x696C6961 »

junon wrote: post #180
user_7832 wrote: post #159

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...does noob here just refer to a new (green) user? Or is it something else?

Noob comes from newb, which comes from newbie. Some argue it comes from "nubile" but I don't personally buy that etymology. I distinctly remember "newb" followed by "noob" but that was eons ago.

Always thought it was "new" but made to sound like "boob" because it's funny.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by Yizahi »

a4isms wrote: post #172
stymaar wrote: post #160

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High frequency karma farming.

You aren't serious about high-frequency karma ("HFK") unless you colocate your equipment with the routing for your sources so you can beat your HFK competition to a submission by at least 200ms. We will have reached HFK-ception when the bots are fighting to be the first to submit "How I used AI to build a High-Frequency Karma Farming Bot on Hacker News."

Then a week later: "Paul Graham announces a 100000$/month high priority access plan to the HackerNews via YC API." :)

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by arionhardison »

Yizahi wrote: post #203
a4isms wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You aren't serious about high-frequency karma ("HFK") unless you colocate your equipment with the routing for your sources so you can beat your HFK competition to a submission by at least 200ms. We will have reached HFK-ception when the bots are fighting to be the first to submit "How I used AI to build a High-Frequency Karma Farming Bot on Hacker News."

Then a week later: "Paul Graham announces a 100000$/month high priority access plan to the HackerNews via YC API." :)

YC already announced something along these lines.

re: https://www.ycombinator.com/early-access

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by cruffle_duffle »

gizmodo59 wrote: post #58
throwaway2027 wrote: post #3

I'm starting to explore alternative options because Claude has become an awful value proposition. Any suggestions?

codex (their app) is pretty good and lots of banked resets, luna is cost effective and Astra seems better than Fable for many tasks. Most important one is less refusals and I can use it the way I want without the fear of getting banned. I do like Claude Code a lot when it comes to pure coding use cases but the work often touches outside code and I don't want to keep switching

> I do like Claude Code a lot when it comes to pure coding use cases

The harness is great, but opus is such an arrogant little prick that spews out unintelligible word salad. Opus 5 is so bad at communication it amazes me that somebody green-lit it. It's absolutely awful.

The fact that this isn't an acknowledged regression (and Fable 5.1 isn't much better) leads me to believe that people at Anthropic actually like Opus 5's output.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by TomGarden »

idle_zealot wrote: post #49
royal__ wrote: post #8

These kinds of updates always have this romantic scenario of someone having Claude develop a presentation or something on their way to work between multiple devices, which actually feels a little sad and does not align with what happens in my life at all.

This is a nightmare scenario to me. "Claude, prepare me a presentation on XYZ." I get to work, go straight to the meeting room, and pull up what it made to present. It's barely coherent nonsense. Lots of irrelevant details, buzz words, wrong charts or confusing phrasing. Obviously LLM output. I read it out. When I'm done, I get a question about one of Claude's incorrectly inferred details. The shame instantly kills m…

This made me laugh out loud.

All the Apple Intelligence commercials were shamelessly this too. Felt like such poor branding for apple

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by adolph »

0x696C6961 wrote: post #202
junon wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Noob comes from newb, which comes from newbie. Some argue it comes from "nubile" but I don't personally buy that etymology. I distinctly remember "newb" followed by "noob" but that was eons ago.

Always thought it was "new" but made to sound like "boob" because it's funny.

And not related to Safire's "nattering nabobs of negativism," the originals of whom SF's Nob Hill eponymizes.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by zakisaad »

vertigoruntime wrote: post #158
peterldowns wrote: post #118

How did this new account `vertigoruntime` get three posts on the front page, all in the last day? - This post - The DeepMind Institute https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49727659 - Mistral X Mozilla: Private, Multilingual AI Browsing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49723408 based on their account submission history they have a 25% hit rate (!) Seems very, very weird.

I just have RSS feeds of news in AI circles that may be cool, built an entire tracker around it - helps me pick up new stuff on time !

Any chance you could drop the set of feeds? Would be very interested!
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