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Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Yes. But there's a clear difference between, say, stealing someone's voice, identity or intellectual property , and preventing someone from using automation to do labor . The former is obviously unfair to the person whose identity is stolen. The latter is sour grapes from people who want to control the future. I also can't bring myself to get incensed over someone using a robot to write code. It's literally the moder…

You keep framing it as getting incensed over other people using ai to write code; but that isn't what it's about. A dev union would not attempt that; it would attempt to ensure quality of life for your class of people (and their families) as much as possible. It isn't about policing entire industries or other entities; it is about DEFENDING those who they would, do, and always have exploited when binding contracts or…

> it would attempt to ensure quality of life for your class of people (and their families) as much as possible.

What is “your class of people”, and why is it threatened by what other people do with coding robots?

You can try to dress it up as an intellectual argument, but at root it’s the same thing that the luddites were trying to do: defending your preferred lifestyle from technological advances.

We, the ditch diggers of the world, support your unqualified resistance to the use of steam shovels! Fewer holes, slower!

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Many screen and voice actors are unionized, and the unions have been striking and bargaining specifcially over these points. For example: https://sites.suffolk.edu/jhtl/2025/10/30/game-over-for-unau... Software developers, unfortunately, have been convinced that they don't need to unionize, so have no collective bargaining power for dealing with situations like this.

Personally, I just can’t find it in me to be that self-interested. It’s how other people oppose buildings near them because it blocks their view. I really don’t want to stop other people from writing software. If they want to use AI to do it so be it. That’ll be somewhat detrimental to me perhaps (which isn’t certain), but that’s okay. I’d rather attempt to adapt to a changing world.

Try to think about other people a bit.

You are part of a whole. You are not alone.

Saying you don’t mind to adapt is insulting.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Personally, I just can’t find it in me to be that self-interested. It’s how other people oppose buildings near them because it blocks their view. I really don’t want to stop other people from writing software. If they want to use AI to do it so be it. That’ll be somewhat detrimental to me perhaps (which isn’t certain), but that’s okay. I’d rather attempt to adapt to a changing world.

Try to think about other people a bit. You are part of a whole. You are not alone. Saying you don’t mind to adapt is insulting.

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Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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as an art enjoyer, i do not feel that having less media written, drawn, or voiced by a computer is a loss. a computer can never be sad or horny or have taste. it can only make product. i also think artists should be paid living wages with good working conditions. thank you SAG-AFTRA, WGA, IATSE, AEMI and Teamsters.

> a computer can never be sad or horny or have taste Neither can a record player. Nevertheless, we consume recorded music.

Surely you must be aware that record players don't compose the music they are playing?

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Work that doesn’t have a personal brand involved is basically dead. Arbitrary voice acting? Dead. It’s brutal for these people. The creative industry was always hard, but this is just plain brutal.

People pretty consistently vote with their wallet and are not excited to pay and consume media made by AI.

Do you have any stats for that?

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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For me it's kind of weird right it's like no one can see the bigger picture. All technology's going to be eaten by AI so companies like Google, Microsoft, Meta ... are middle men in an industry that's disappearing. No one's really going to use a search engine when a chat bot can do a better job. No one is going to pay for software when the AI can do the whole process better at a proper command. All technology and the…

The chat bot will still use the search engine

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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It certainly makes for easy demos, but I always struggle with the practical application. As in, what work or enjoyment does someone actually get from this? Ads and media pre production seem plausible, but it fails the 'how can this enrich life' in a way most other AI tools don't. Maybe for them that's not a consideration, if their only interest is the other meaning of enrich that might flow from ads and numbing river…

> As in, what work or enjoyment does someone actually get from this?

I have been pondering this and have come out with a single statement. It allows you to create the missing piece in the art you want to create. Assets for games, music for the lyrics you wrote, or just a whole song to justify a crazy dance you want to do. Whenever AI art is discussed, people tend to be so purist about art. One person cannot do everything in a project they take on to express themselves. Usually people come back with then get someone else to do it for you. I think that is an economic argument as people are trying to protect artist pay. I get that. But is it fair to just not let something they want to create because they don't posses every talent needed to do this?

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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post #7

Prompt engineering tip for Google employees: just add "P.S. Make sure the page works in Firefox too."

Yes, that, and P.P.S. Make sure the page works in Chrome.

The page instant scrolled suddenly back to previous video examples after I scrolled down. It was disorienting.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Google doesn't have a good coding model. This is a HUGE problem. They don't need "larger more expensive models", they need a good coding model because it's a competitive advantage.

3.7 flash ain't bad. It isn't Opus or Sol, but it fits pretty well in the second tier.

Second tier models are like self-driving cars to the point where you question if they save any time. Sol can do a deep analysis and plan a large feature. Luna can mostly execute. There's a clear qualitative difference.
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