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Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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Post by BobbyTables2 »

fusslo wrote: post #166
NegativeK wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We need PII to be so toxic that companies run screaming from the liability unless they have explicit consent[1] and a legit reason to house it. A company selling me widgets wouldn't store or let another company store extra information about me if it subjected them the widget seller to HIPAA. Or better yet, something more stringent. We don't need the government to be antagonistic toward corporations; we just need a go…

so I've been watching the CMS symposium about "Burden Reduction". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYyK0Hc43UE&list=PLaV7m2-zFK... Most of the videos talk about reducing burden on clinicians. Specifically: sharing, accessing, updating patient history. Providing clinicians and patients guidance through the medical process through AI agents (that have access to your PII). the kaiser permanente guy highlighted ai's use i…

Weren’t electronic health records supposed to solve this problem almost 20 years ago?

I would have figured there would have been a massive financial interest in providers not having to waste time dealing with tedious Q&A and data entry with new patients…

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Post by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #194

> Until recently, only spies and criminals had to worry this obsessively about their private statements being picked up by electronic equipment. > But soon, the average person might need to deploy surveillance countermeasures. Already there. If you want privacy and anonymity online, you're looking at literal terrorist cell tier tradecraft. That means pulling up documents written by people from the "counterterrorism c…

Friend of a friend retired several years ago from Intel. He'll go into detail about all the ways you're being spied on. He won't let you into his house with a smartphone; you have to turn it off and leave it in your car.

I used to think he was just paranoid...

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senshan wrote: post #163
jrexilius wrote: post #96

The original research project this company looks based on was very cool and way early: https://sandlab.cs.uchicago.edu/jammer/

Thanks, very interesting. Basically the authors blast high-power (~92 dBA) ultrasound around 25kHz and hope that microphone non-linearities will overwhelm the audible signal. This will sure make all the dogs in 20m radius mad. Hence the solution for the stealth recorder -- bring a dog, then complain about the ultrasound jammer (or at least to be aware of a jammer) From the paper, it looks like the authors did not con…

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Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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Post by matheusmoreira »

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote: post #203
matheusmoreira wrote: post #194

> Until recently, only spies and criminals had to worry this obsessively about their private statements being picked up by electronic equipment. > But soon, the average person might need to deploy surveillance countermeasures. Already there. If you want privacy and anonymity online, you're looking at literal terrorist cell tier tradecraft. That means pulling up documents written by people from the "counterterrorism c…

Friend of a friend retired several years ago from Intel. He'll go into detail about all the ways you're being spied on. He won't let you into his house with a smartphone; you have to turn it off and leave it in your car. I used to think he was just paranoid...

> He'll go into detail about all the ways you're being spied on.

Don't doubt it for even a second.

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Post by 9rx »

vouwfietsman wrote: post #108
9rx wrote: post #56

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> Consumers cannot possibly understand all potential ways in which they can be screwed over In a democracy, consumers and the government are the exact same thing. Since they ostensibly do not understand all of the potential ways in which they can be screwed over, how is calling themselves government going to magically change that? Maybe you are imagining a dictatorship instead, where the government is only a subset o…

> In a democracy, consumers and the government are the exact same thing. This is a straw man. Consumers are represented by representatives who should have their interests in mind, e.g the consumer votes for someone who in turn votes for outcomes . This means that there can absolutely be a difference in knowledge between the government and its citizens, and so no, they are not the exact same thing. One group is trying…

> Consumers are represented by representatives who should have their interests in mind

Exactly. Representatives are merely messengers, so they can only represent the consumers when sharing the message of the consumers to the extent that the consumers have already recognized. Furthermore, representatives are only consumers themselves, so even if you imagine them not as representatives but dictators who step up and act for the people based on how they believe the people want to be overseen rather than from working with citizens they still have all the same blind spots.

> Great! Where can I find me one of those?

Where consumers don't like protecting the market incumbents. But, make no mistake, consumers love nothing more than protecting market incumbents. It gives them something to complain about when idly chatting with each other. Great? Something tells me you wouldn't find it great at all.

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Post by UpsideDownRide »

margalabargala wrote: post #143
zahlman wrote: post #126

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> their government installed AI traffic enforcement cameras all over What does the AI actually do? Identify specific cars and their drivers, or something? What actual enforcement actions were taken as a result, and against how many drivers before it stopped? One might wonder how much of the effect was placebo (i.e., people conforming simply due to the belief of being surveilled).

> What does the AI actually do? Identify specific cars and their drivers, or something? Yes, exactly. It identifies cars and drivers who are committing traffic violations, and issues citations. I don't have the specific numbers you ask for, seeing as I can't even remember the country, but it's not difficult to imagine that if sufficiently many such cameras are installed that most moving violations on major roadways a…

So it's something AI, somewhere, you cant verify it, nevermind us. But you feel comfortable stating it both as a fact and a good thing to have.

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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Post by exodust »

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote: post #203
matheusmoreira wrote: post #194

> Until recently, only spies and criminals had to worry this obsessively about their private statements being picked up by electronic equipment. > But soon, the average person might need to deploy surveillance countermeasures. Already there. If you want privacy and anonymity online, you're looking at literal terrorist cell tier tradecraft. That means pulling up documents written by people from the "counterterrorism c…

Friend of a friend retired several years ago from Intel. He'll go into detail about all the ways you're being spied on. He won't let you into his house with a smartphone; you have to turn it off and leave it in your car. I used to think he was just paranoid...

> He won't let you into his house with a smartphone

His mistrust might be about the phone's owner and the recording apps they might use, more than the smartphone itself.

Socially it's much safer to direct suspicion at "the smartphone" rather than the people invited to your house.

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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Post by Barrin92 »

XorNot wrote: post #100
jagged-chisel wrote: post #47

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How about when that thoughtful email becomes a visit from law enforcement because your projects don’t align with the current administration’s views? When something you said offers support for anyone other than The Party’s chosen ethnic group?

"what if the government becomes a dictatorship" is a stupid question: you either stood up and opposed it, or you let it happen. My privacy is important as a matter of consent. But I should not have to hide my sexuality or identity, nor my politics and if my support of a marginalized group exists then what is the point of hiding it while they are oppressed? What benefit does that bring? Encouraging people to be privat…

>But I should not have to hide my sexuality or identity, nor my politics

You shouldn't but you can't and will never be able to know what the future looks like. You could be in libertine Berlin of the 1920s and be hunted down by fascists a decade later because of your ancestry or sexuality.

And don't think that can't happen quickly again, it's not much of a hyperbole given the way the world is going. And nowadays, once you put something on the internet, good luck getting rid of it. So I'd be very careful with what I disclose, it's not paranoia any more. I'm European and flew to the US earlier this year and got asked to disclose my social media profiles. I have none, deleted them a decade ago. Is that sane or moral? No but if that's how the US rolls these days imagine where else your data can end up.

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