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What is the point you're trying to make?
That here on ycombinator saying to follow the law gets you downvoted and flagged. Let that sink in.
GrapheneOS Defends Data-Wiping Function That Blocked US Border Search
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> we have not observed any dictatorial behavior, - this is unrelated to economics, - we have not observed any violent suppression, - we have not observed any actions based on nationalism/race, So the main thing tying your comment together is that you have not been observing? This does not seem particularly "good faith", nor does it make for an interesting or productive conversation.
This is incorrect as this is not what I said. I stated 'we' not 'I'. And I did not imply that we haven't been observing, I was stating historically that, with all we have observed about this duress pin case, we have yet to observe any of the listed things happening. If one believes we have, in fact, observed any of the above things taking place - rather than complaining about an uninteresting or unproductive conversa…
Yes, I translated. You used the word "we" to make it sound like this is a universal opinion, when the reality is that it is merely your opinion.
There are well-known examples of every single one of the bullet points you "have not observed". So either you have not been paying much attention, which can be fixed with some simple web searches. Or you are being willfully ignorant of the widespread criticism, which is a disingenuous framing if you are truly interested in "good faith" discussion.
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#204any reason with graphine os to wipe vs power off? Unless you have an easy bfu password doesn't it protect you from multiple password attempts?
It uses hardware with a secure element only permitting 20 attempts. The past 5 unique attempts are rejected early out for usability. We published a technical overview of how GrapheneOS protects against data extraction covering the major protections it adds: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/40700-grapheneos-protection...
graphine os needs a feature to triple press the power button for an immediate power off.
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This is the issue with these sorts of laws. How do you make it illegal to destroy evidence of criminal misconduct when the destruction of evidence can make it impossible to prove it ever existed? That seems to be along the lines of what they're arguing here - they wanted to perform an ostensibly legal search, and he destroyed everything that might have been evidence either way. It would be like a corporation getting…
A "bad look" is legally irrelevant. A US citizen has an almost unlimited right to enter the USA carrying anything that's legal to import. Blank phones are legal to import.
Carrying a blank phone is much less suspicious than carrying a locked phone that you then trick border officers into wiping all the data off of.
I agree that it's legally irrelevant, but we've seen many court rulings lately where legally relevant things are ignored (e.g. 'the president is immune to any legal repercussions from committing crimes') so given the current political climate I think 'bad look' is still relevant in practice.
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Whoever explained this to you has done you a terrible disservice. The border is the border - on one side you are in the USA and on the other side you are outside it. If there was a strip of land where you are not in a country then how can CBP assert any authority? No, you must be in America. There is no "no man's land," and there is no such thing as "international land" at America's borders where no law exists.
Related anecdote, there is a strip of international land between Egypt and Sudan, neither country wants it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bir_Tawil
No-man's-lands exist (a very obvious one is the DMZ between North Korea and South Korea), but I believe the specific point was that no-man's-lands don't exist at the US borders.