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The lost joy of music piracy

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Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by GiveOver »

DaanDL wrote: post #90

Biggest thing I miss about all of this was the gatekeeping and curation really. There's so much garbage on Spotify, it's hard to find good music, and the recommendations I get always safely stay in what I already listened to.

One thing I like to do on Spotify is to make a "Blend" playlist with a friend whose music taste overlaps with mine slightly. Not for its intended use of creating a playlist for you both to listen to at the same time, but instead I find it's useful at pulling your recommendations out of the safe zone (and towards the taste of your friend). Sounds a little bit dystopian that I'm cutting my friends out of the friend-recommendation part of music discovery, but if I find a new artist I like I usually make sure to mention it to the friend.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by konart »

ValdikSS wrote: post #178
konart wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anime (an everything related) torrent sites are also pretty alive.

Oh no, these don't feel very well either, in a sense that there's only a few seeders of the older uploads, if at all, and by older I mean as old as just a few years old. I'm running my torrent preservation service, and many anime/jrock/jpop downloads start downloading only after weeks or months of waiting for a seeder. Groups and individuals who used to be active on the scene has switched elsewhere and retracted thei…

Oh, year, in this sense - p2p is almost dead compare to times when I was frequentin animesuki forums or stoptazmo

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by piker »

CTDOCodebases wrote: post #198
devonsolomon wrote: post #112

The thing I miss most, and the thing we’ll never get back was the cultural buy-in and network effects. My music discovery then was different friend groups incrementally amassing large collections of albums in whatever sub-culture that friend groups had doubled down on. My iPod would be the culmination of my friendships. I would then fall in love with bands and albums and tracks on these albums without any influence b…

I think algorithmic music discovery is overrated. Back in the day I used to use Audioscrobler which was an audio plugin for Winamp which was basically a recommender system for music. I discovered some interesting music through that but nowhere near the amount of music I later discovered through hypem which was a music blog aggregator.

Does anyone in 2026 rate algorithmic discovery for music? Or is it widely perceived to be the engagement-reinforcement mechanism that it is?

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by damienmeur »

cobbzilla wrote: post #196
damienmeur wrote: post #193

I think what the article is missing is that main issue with streaming platform (for music and videos) is that it reshapes completely the business models of the music/movie industry. A CD or DVD was maybe a bad product, but it allows not "TOP" artists/production to still get ROI without needing to be viewed/watched by audience of billions. The music/movie industry is now way less diverse, because smaller actors cannot…

it’s only less diverse at the top. go down a couple of layers and various genres of music are experiencing renaissance’s like you would not believe. pop music has always (mostly) sucked [EDIT] Bring on the downvotes. You never bothered to explore. If you take what’s given to you by those who are selling, you’re in the seller’s market. Your downvotes are pride to me.

IMO it's just very scattered across very huge players / very small players that dont really live out of their artist work (it s just like a "hobby").

If you look at this year rock werchter festival in Belgium, it's ofcourse very good artists: Gorillaz, The XX, Franz Ferdinand,...

But almost only groups from the 90`s / 2000`s that could make their name when the industry was more tolerant with non-pop / blockbuster music.

I m over caricaturing ofcourse, but probably that if Gorillaz was created in 2026, Damon Albarn would post his work on a forgotten soundcloud, do some bartmitzvah during the weekend to roundup the end of the months while working as a ubereats delivery driver.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by keiferski »

b345 wrote: post #173
keiferski wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s always really bizarre to me how pirates justify stealing creative works as some sort of culture. The record companies were/are awful, for sure, but the solution is to support musicians directly then, not come up with elaborate justifications for your theft. I imagine most of this is done by people with secure professions that don’t worry about getting paid for their work. When it comes to music and other art for…

If there was a mainstream way of supporting artists directly and having permanent ownership of music, piracy would be punching down and could possibly be a taboo practice. But as the current order stands, its punching up and fucking the suits more than artists and I really like that.

Bandcamp? Direct sales on their website?

I can understand the piracy argument 25 years ago, when these didn't exist. But at this point, I think there are plenty of ways to directly support artists.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by cobbzilla »

damienmeur wrote: post #207
cobbzilla wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it’s only less diverse at the top. go down a couple of layers and various genres of music are experiencing renaissance’s like you would not believe. pop music has always (mostly) sucked [EDIT] Bring on the downvotes. You never bothered to explore. If you take what’s given to you by those who are selling, you’re in the seller’s market. Your downvotes are pride to me.

IMO it's just very scattered across very huge players / very small players that dont really live out of their artist work (it s just like a "hobby"). If you look at this year rock werchter festival in Belgium, it's ofcourse very good artists: Gorillaz, The XX, Franz Ferdinand,... But almost only groups from the 90`s / 2000`s that could make their name when the industry was more tolerant with non-pop / blockbuster mus…

how many live local shows have you been to in the last month?

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Post by inigyou »

ValdikSS wrote: post #178
konart wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anime (an everything related) torrent sites are also pretty alive.

Oh no, these don't feel very well either, in a sense that there's only a few seeders of the older uploads, if at all, and by older I mean as old as just a few years old. I'm running my torrent preservation service, and many anime/jrock/jpop downloads start downloading only after weeks or months of waiting for a seeder. Groups and individuals who used to be active on the scene has switched elsewhere and retracted thei…

There are also western ones. The keyword to look for is "debrid"
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