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My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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I think you can run Moonlight or Sunshine (i forgot which is which end) even directly on some "smart" TVs lately. Second hand info though, I have a friend who swears by those but he didn't give me the details.

I run Moonlight directly on my Apple TV and it's great! Apple TV is so wildly better than any smart TV on the market that I'll always have it be the brains of any TV I own for the foreseeable future anyway.

Do you pair your controller to the Apple TV, or the remote computer?

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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I don’t understand why the Steam Machine is getting so much hate. The form factor is amazing and a huge part of the value proposition. It’s slightly bigger than a box of Kleenex and you can put it next to the TV, on your desk, etc. I’m tempted to get one just to free up the floor space used by my ATX case. The graphics capability seems good enough, most people can live without 4k gaming.

I wish I could buy the Steam Machine. I just can't afford it. The high price is probably why people "hate" it.

Said people should try peicing a new PC build with similar components. Market pricing of hardware is a shitshow currently.

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Out of curiosity, why not use a $10 steam link to achieve a similar effect to using a $700 gaming tablet?

Steam Link is very oudated hardware which does not support modern codecs. I have tried both Smart TV and Android Streaming Box hardware to run various setups - both of which are theoretically capable - but in practice fall short compared to the Steam Deck experience (which I already had lying around almost gathering dust)

This is making me wonder if there is a product that just... streams things well for you. I hate my Chromecasts, but it's the best solution I've found for what I want.

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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My gaming PC motherboard recently sh*t the bed. It was over 10 years old and I’ve beaten that thing up quite a bit. It’s Zen 1, so new MOBO basically means like 70% new PC. Before the price was announced I figured I’d look into a Steam Machine because I also want a well-supported Linux box for coding. I already have a PS5 Pro - which turned out to actually be a decent investment because the price has been increased m…

>the Steam Machine barely stacks up against a base PS5 People keep saying this as if the PS5 competes with a gaming PC. It doesn't. Please tell me when you can run Firefox on your PS5 (specifically Firefox, for good ad blocking. Or Brave if you want, it's just a PC ). Please tell me when you can run a minecraft server on a PS5. Please tell me when you can run Factorio on a PS5. For your actual problem though, look at…

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Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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I have a gaming PC and a steam deck. My goal was to use my steam deck as a steam link (their old streaming hardware) w/ a Xbox controller Both are connected via Ethernet and actually the video quality was very very good, and input lag was completely fine. Unfortunately there were so many issues. I want a console like experience where I can just decide that i want to pick up a controller and play. With this setup I ha…

The issue in your setup is Windows^tm. (what I do) gaming machine's shell profile, if [[ $(tty) == "/dev/tty2" ]]; then ; sudo chvt 1; exit fi then all you need is some event(s) to trigger changing to tty2 on the target machine. perhaps when a controller connects, or your tv changes input, or you press a button on your tv/tv box remote.

I don’t think having to write bash is a console like experience.

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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I don’t understand why the Steam Machine is getting so much hate. The form factor is amazing and a huge part of the value proposition. It’s slightly bigger than a box of Kleenex and you can put it next to the TV, on your desk, etc. I’m tempted to get one just to free up the floor space used by my ATX case. The graphics capability seems good enough, most people can live without 4k gaming.

I don’t understand who the target is. I can afford one but I’ve already got a PS5 Pro and it just works. I’ve got a threadripper+blackwell running Linux too, but it gets 2/3 the framerate of when I boot it to windows for games. When I had more time and less money, I would have built a gaming PC that would be better and cheaper than the steam offering. So the market isn’t me. Who is it? Who wants a gaming machine conn…

I think you’re massively under valuing people who have giant Steam libraries and want to be able to use them in a console like experience.

Lots of people don’t want to buy a ps5 and split ecosystems. Lots of people don’t want to tinker with sunshine.

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> The Steam Machine costs about as much as a comparable self-built PC. That's amazing, is VALVE selling these at a loss?

Linus Tech Tips did a video a few days ago where they built a DIY Steam box for the same price. What they came up with was a decent improvement on the GPU but not a massive upgrade. Kinda suggests Valve isn't necessarily selling them at a loss but the margins are probably near zero.

Wasn’t it also like 4x the size?

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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post #191

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Steam Link is very oudated hardware which does not support modern codecs. I have tried both Smart TV and Android Streaming Box hardware to run various setups - both of which are theoretically capable - but in practice fall short compared to the Steam Deck experience (which I already had lying around almost gathering dust)

This is making me wonder if there is a product that just... streams things well for you. I hate my Chromecasts, but it's the best solution I've found for what I want.

It does seem like a huge gap in the market somehow. There is just not one thing that supports both gaming and media well with modern features.

The oudated 2019 NVIDIA Shield TV Pro is still regarded as the best in class - despite not supporting many modern things like AV1, HDR10+, HDMI 2.1 or Dolby Vision.

I ended up using a Homatics Box R 4k Plus for everything video-related which _does_ support all of the above quite well, but it unfortunately has so many software issues which prevented me from using Steam Remote Play or Moonlight which is why I ended up settling on just using a docked Steam Deck for that use-case.

I switch between the two, which is pretty annoying!

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> If you already have Ethernet at both ends I cannot recommend enough game streaming. With the right setup it is almost identical to having my computer plugged in physically, and I am very sensitive to input latency. There still some issues. If your beefy machine has monitor of a different resolution it gets a bit wacky. In the past I had to plug fake HDMI-EDID thing because my main PC is ultra-wide and what will get…

Look into Apollo, which is a fork of Sunshine. This works flawlessly for monitors plugged into the host, and clients using a different resolution

I will try, but I already can tell lack of HDR is going to make me sad.
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