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Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Gosh, it used to be £3 not that long ago. About £5 for a wrap at Prêt if I couldn't be bothered to go fight with the tourists to cross the road down Kingsway.

It's £3.85. Not that much more.

£5.50+ is for the better “main” options, some of which used to be in the base deal, in most places that do a meal deal.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Wikipedia's ownership section on broadcom is stale 2024 data but back then at least 10 investment firms and banks owned about 40% of it.

Broadcom is publicly listed with a public float of about 98% (i.e. 98% of it's shares are listed publicly). You're right that most shares are held by institutions (~80%), but that typically reflects the fact that most share ownership by individuals/companies goes through intermediaries (401k, fund investments, ETF etc.). Most of this institutional ownership is just asset managers, insurance, banks etc. taking their c…

> None of this takes away from the point that Broadcom is absolutely run like a PE firm as the original commenter noted.

So a public(ly-traded) private equity firm. :)

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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> Tesco is also dealing with migration challenges related to data security because its new, unnamed virtualization software is incompatible with the Veeam and Zerto products it uses. What is a VMware alternative, that isn't compatible with backup software? I'm guessing it's not nutanix?

Probably Proxmox. Veeam support is relatively new.

> Probably Proxmox. Veeam support is relatively new.

As a sysadmin of Proxmox, I do not see how it can scale to 40k VMs. The Proxmox folks themselves have seen "~24" nodes in a cluster (theoretical support is higher), so you'd probably need a lot of clusters for 40k:

* https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/proxmox-with-48-nodes.1746...

For such a size (and sticking strickly with open source), XCP-ng could be an option, or OpenStack. In the closed source space, Nutanix.

As of 2021, CERN had 35k instances/VMs in their OpenStack implementation:

* https://superuser.openinfra.org/articles/scaling-bare-metal-...

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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What's so unbelievable about meal deals? It seems like a really straightforward bundle purchase.

A sandwich, bag of crisps and a drink for £5 is an actual deal. Sandwich alone in U.S. would be $10 and the “$15 Meal Deal” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

$6.5 is about what you'd spend to get a bag of chips, hot or cold sandwich and drink from any Walmart that's been renovated recently enough to have a "Grab and go" or whatever they're calling it.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Why a retailer needs 40k servers? What are they serving? To whom? What is wrong with system designers these days? Are they designing or just selling?

How do you imagine cash registers work these days? With 5,000 stores worldwide, 40k servers is 8 computers per store, which doesn't seem excessive to me.

8 servers per store does sound excessive unless of course they are running vm ware on all the computers in the stores, and they count as "servers".

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Costco sells really good hotdogs with a large coke for $1.50.

Mechanically reclaimed meat and a half gallon of high fructose corn water isn't much of a comparison.

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Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Do it anonymously?

Calling @cstross as technology and demonic possession seem to be some of his core competences.

Is @catross generally responsive to beetlejuicing of this nature?

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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I work at Red Hat and a customer moving 40k servers off VMware is a fairly regular occurrence. It'd be one of the larger migrations but certainly not unusual. We can usually do about 500-1000 guests per day once the migration is fully underway after the initial engagement and a qualification period where the VMs get scoped for anything unusual / difficult to move. It's all based around open source projects virt-v2v a…

>Broadcom's "strategy" is absolutely baffling to me. I know plenty of Enterprise customers who cannot move easily and just renewed 3 year VMware licenses for their cluster at insane rates. They are planning on moving but I'd be shocked if they complete it. $LastCompany had VMware footprint I know will be very difficult to move off, deployments, monitoring, backups were all dependent on VMware. There are plenty of US…

> I know plenty of Enterprise customers who cannot move easily and just renewed 3 year VMware licenses for their cluster at insane rates

Also known as incompetence. Broadcom's business model is public. Their plans for VMware were public from when the acquisition was announced.

Those companies had years to plan how to get rid of everything VMware. Instead they paid through the nose to postpone the inevitable for a few years.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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I think Broadcom correctly realizes that no matter what they do there is no long term: In a world of Cloud hyperscalers and containerization, the absolute number of “traditional” virtual machines run by a commercial hypervisor has nowhere to go but down.

No one's going away from VMs any time soon (if ever). More than half of the workloads we see being migrated are Windows. Many more are odd/ancient RHEL versions running some very specific software where the manufacturer won't offer a newer version / went out of business / the guy who set it up left and no one knows how it's configured / it works and we never want to touch it again.

> More than half of the workloads we see being migrated are Windows. Many more are odd/ancient RHEL versions running some very specific software where the manufacturer won't offer a newer version / went out of business / the guy who set it up left and no one knows how it's configured / it works and we never want to touch it again.

And number of those has nowhere to go but down too. There is no growth in either of those, because everyone who will at some point try to get rid of them. Not all, not immediately, but the ultimate trajectory is down.

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