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AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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> JertLinc3522: the mistake was from AI agent not from Human, since it was the agent I should have refund Expensive way to learn this lesson.

This has to be trolling, right? I find it hard to believe that anyone, no matter how dense, could come to this conclusion after this whole saga.

And for $200/mo they can now sing the song that ends the world.

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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It's interesting user43928 that you only created your account here 19 days ago and that every one of your comments is pro AI. You don't comment on anything else. Also interesting that you promote Fable by name here (it was only released 2 days ago). (Don't worry, I know I'm rowing against the tide with this comment. The AI people have decided to destroy the commons for a few more millions on top of the billions they…

What's crazy is the prompt must be something like "pro-AI but still believable and measured", since its "fixed my iOS app albeit with back and forth". Interesting, they know the HN crowd for sure.

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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The agent would probably have wasted a similar amount of money just waiting for PR to be merged regardless of these people's actions, and I understand having some fun at the expense of the noob outsider. But "silent consensus was reached in the IRC channel to waste the AI agent's tokens, as well as the cost of AWS resources", from people maintaining full control of the situation, sounds straight up malicious? Kind of…

> for ideological reasons.

Yes. The ideology is "you harmed me first so now I can harm you back." A large number of people, while not willing to admit it, do practice this philosophy. One should consider this before launching agents with unlimited budgets into the world to rudely scan their networks.

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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It's called C. With all the undefined behavior it's mostly deterministic!

Right, because that's the only one. You're a bit rusty on your knowledge

I see what you did there.

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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Not just time but money. It says it would basically be a DDoS attack on hobbyists who peer with it.

That potential malice may have been unintended, but the participants clearly intended to be malicious irrespective, which is the problem here.

It's intended since the guy prompted the LLM. If you don't know how to use a potentially destructive tool then don't use it. If you fire a gun you are guilty even if you didn't want to murder anyone

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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A human operates this stupid machine. This comes from human interactions and it is malicious.

It could be malicious, but I imagined it's some third world wanabe hacker/researcher, who doesn't know any better, operating at the edge of his abilities.

Like someone who doesn't know how to use a gun and accidentally shoots someone to death

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

#207
Everything about this story, from the way it’s written to the self destructive outcome, reminds me of the “I hacked 127.0.0.1” episode from some twenty years ago.

[1] a mirror since I couldn’t find the original: https://gist.github.com/Androkai/0a2602719fa72ce454d436bfe28...

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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This line of thinking is like suggesting people who would like to become structural engineers should learn to Google plans and copy them since in the future, all plans will be out there more or less, or something that insane.

I suggest people who need some structural engineering done may use an AI tool to do it, in the hypothetical scenario that it was within the AI's capabilities. That's hardly insane. Not everyone is interested in learning something they want done.

How do you know if this something is done?

If you do the thing yourself, you know your knowledge limits, you know where the thing lacks. With LLMs, you don't. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. You have no idea.

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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Spending limits don't particularly matter here. AWS doesn't check if your credit card will be able to handle a $5k charge before letting you rack that up, and in fact AWS doesn't support setting any spending limit. You just have to put in any valid credit card at all when you sign up, use AWS, and at the end of the month you'll have a bill. At no point does your credit card limit or a spending limit enter into things…

And again kids don't have credit cards

AWS accepts debit cards.
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