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Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Post by Schlagbohrer »

garciasn wrote: post #40

I read for pleasure; ~100 books a year on average. When I go anywhere, I am reading. My daughter informed me that the mothers of her teammates were outright making fun of me for having my 'nose buried in a book,' before every event. I asked her if they were making fun of everyone else for having their nose buried in their phones; she laughed and said they probably were not. Why is reading for fun something that's wor…

Is this in the united states? The usa has a shockingly anti-intellectual culture and has been so for my whole life.

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Post by Schlagbohrer »

encrypted_bird wrote: post #104
chickensong wrote: post #44

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Herd mentality, anti-intellectual culture, poor reading skills, and ADHD are widespread issues. Those mothers sound lame, and ultimately the joke's on them. Reading is awesome, and making fun of someone for it just shows what basic bitches they are.

Hey, come on... I have ADHD and love reading. No need to use that as a bludgeon. It's unnecessary...

Doesn't your ADHD interfere with sitting down and reading?

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Post by Schlagbohrer »

dyauspitr wrote: post #178
encrypted_bird wrote: post #104

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Hey, come on... I have ADHD and love reading. No need to use that as a bludgeon. It's unnecessary...

I knew a friend with ADHD that had a hard time reading. I suggested to him that he visualize and draw an image of everything he’s reading in his mind and apparently that made that a lot easier.

Um, were they not visualizing books as they read them? I'm assuming fiction like novels. How could one possibly read a novel and not visualize everything they're reading?

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Post by Schlagbohrer »

chicken-stew wrote: post #135
garciasn wrote: post #40

I read for pleasure; ~100 books a year on average. When I go anywhere, I am reading. My daughter informed me that the mothers of her teammates were outright making fun of me for having my 'nose buried in a book,' before every event. I asked her if they were making fun of everyone else for having their nose buried in their phones; she laughed and said they probably were not. Why is reading for fun something that's wor…

I love the result of reading, and the occasional jolt I get when reading, but not the activity of reading. I need to consume the text word for word, scanning with my eyes. The thing that gets me most happened after I got into Hemmingway: everything in a book happens in the forefront. In a movie you can have things happening outside your span od attention. Not in a book. You can’t have a doorbell happening in the back…

My apologies for over-commenting in this page but, uh, is there a way to read without reading the words? WTF does "I need to consume the text word for word, scanning with my eyes." mean? Are people reading with their eyes closed or using braille or listening to the paper or something?

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Post by KptMarchewa »

reverius42 wrote: post #167
watwut wrote: post #162

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Young adult fiction being the fing young adults read the most makes 100% sense.

"Young adult" fiction is supposed to be for like 11-15 year olds. By high school I'd think you should be reading regular "adult" material. I think the curriculum generally agrees and assigns what we'd call adult literature in high school English.

Not only that. The strict adherence to things like ESRB ratings dumbs down today's kids.

I'm firmly in the camp that I am a better person today because things like parental controls did not really exist in the world when I was a kid, and I was playing GTA at like 10. While kids today at that age are forced to read, listen, watch or play dumbed down crap.

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Post by svelle »

Frieren wrote: post #194
JimsonYang wrote: post #144

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It is the phones fault and it affects more than kids. You see too many parents and grandparents buried on the phones. At least with boomers the tech adoption isnt as high We should recognize its not a generational issue but something that affects us all-young and old

> It is the phones fault and it affects more than kids. It is the business model. There is an incentive to make games addictive. Like arcade games the goal is to keep kids as much time on the machine as possible. But now the arcade is in your pocket 24/7. Even worse, there is an incentive even to just open the app as it is an opportunity to show you an Ad. Notifications, and periodical rewards make sure that there is…

> There is an incentive to make games addictive.

It's not just games though, it's pretty much every digital service now.

Virtually every website has infinite scrolling and algorithms that tailor the feed directly to what "appeals" to the user now. It's all just drip-feeding dopamine to the user base so they stay engaged for the longest possible time.

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Post by mxschumacher »

Schlagbohrer wrote: post #202
encrypted_bird wrote: post #104

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Hey, come on... I have ADHD and love reading. No need to use that as a bludgeon. It's unnecessary...

Doesn't your ADHD interfere with sitting down and reading?

not if it's a fantastic book

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Post by qwery »

I don't mean to put this report down -- it's a good thing to monitor and report on. I'm glad someone is paying attention.

And how are the parents/adults doing?

It's just that the obvious first place to look every time some statistic like this comes out is the parents/teachers/adults. I'd put money on 'Reading for pleasure: all-time low'.

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Post by cucumber3732842 »

21asdffdsa12 wrote: post #197
madaxe_again wrote: post #168

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I had a really effective inoculation against the Skinner box 20+ years ago, when I became addicted to an MMO. It took my life utterly turning to shit and barely escaping being kicked out of university for me to wake up. Since, I’ve always been aware of and wary of the possibility of this kind of dopamine cycling. I see it in others. My wife discovered YouTube shorts a year or so ago, and now she’ll lose entire days t…

https://www.alibaba.com/signal-jammer-suppliers.html Yes, yes you can..

Feds will shoot your dog for that.

And the exact same people complaining about the screens and saying that something must be done will cheer because "we live in a society" or whatever.

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