A walking tour of surveillance infrastructure in Seattle (2020)

Post by redsocksfan45 » Tue, Jun 02, 2026, 8:34 PM UTC

rafram wrote: post #153

bmitch3020 wrote: post #126

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> How do you know he didn't buy the car from the thief? If you're caught with stolen property, particularly a vehicle that has a title, I think the burden is on you to prove you thought you bought the car legitimately. Show a bill-of-sale, signed title, or any other evidence of a transaction. Particularly when that evidence includes identifying information of the seller.

This is a misunderstanding of the American justice system at the most basic level. The burden is never on the defendant to prove their innocence. If the prosecution can’t prove that you stole it or knew it was stolen when you bought it, you aren’t guilty.

Post by orthecreedence » Tue, Jun 02, 2026, 8:46 PM UTC

georgeven wrote: post #109

nostromo wrote: post #72

I think this is just the new normal. My car was stolen in Seattle and it was found with the person driving it when he was pulled over by police. In the car he had paperwork with his name on it, a weapon, and his work uniform in the trunk with a name badge (he was a security guard - lol) along with a neighborhood witness. Despite a mountain of evidence, the prosecutors declined to press charges because without direct…

I wonder if you can sue him in civic court, could teach him a lesson.

Post by senderista » Tue, Jun 02, 2026, 8:51 PM UTC

Post by senderista » Tue, Jun 02, 2026, 8:57 PM UTC

gdudeman wrote: post #132

goda90 wrote: post #57

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What if instead of trying to figure out how to catch criminals, we focus on building a society where no one wants to be a criminal? Can we find solutions to what causes crime, like desperation, greed, fear, failure to understand and have compassion for other people, etc?

For anyone trying to figure out how to build a society where no one wants to be a criminal, I highly recommend When Brute Force Fails: How to Have Less Crime and Less Punishment by Mark Kleiman. There are evidence-backed ways of reducing criminality. One counterintuitive way of reducing crime is to increase the likelihood of being caught, to have small-but-increasing consequences for committing crimes, and to increas…

Post by lovich » Tue, Jun 02, 2026, 9:18 PM UTC

rightbyte wrote: post #169

fny wrote: post #107

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Your forgetting the nonsense a defense attorney will conjure. How do you know he didn't buy the car from the thief? We had a similar issue with the hit and run of my grandfather: even though video evidence found the car and later saw the suspect leave the car, the detectives worried a defence attorney would argue someone else may have been driving at the time the accident (e.g his wife), and therefore "beyond reasona…

> Your forgetting the nonsense a defense attorney will conjure. > How do you know he didn't buy the car from the thief? How is that nonsense? Possessing stolen property doesn't prove you stole it. That would among other issues ruin the 2nd hand market.