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seems like it would just get botted like anything else and also make it harder for fans of an artist who don't use spotify to get tickets
Surely this will get arbitraged like anything else, where fans who get picks will onsell tickets
Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans
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How would you like to manage those things? I listen to a lot of music and I'm pretty happy with Spotify. When I want to discover new music, I pick an artist I like and start the artist radio. I always get good new recommendations
Artist radios almost inevitably become a mix of songs I’ve listened to the most that have even the faintest crossover with the artist genre. It’s very, very frustrating and my biggest peeve about Spotify. I now ask an LLM for an artist radio playlist and copy it over to spotify, which is kind of a pain.
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Scalpers will just do two transactions, one high one for the privilege of being able to buy the ticket, and then the sale at the listed limit. No, the real solution is to make tickets strictly id-bound and non-transferable in any way.
> Scalpers will just do two transactions, one high one for the privilege of being able to buy the ticket, and then the sale at the listed limit. I don’t understand this. If you can’t resell for higher than ticket price, how do they make any profit? Are you saying they’d sell the cheaper ticket for the more expensive ticket’s price? Wouldn’t price stick to the ticket, since presumably different price tiers afford diff…
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This is ultimately a supply and demand problem. If tickets sell out on the secondary market for 10 or 100x the face value, then that's the fair market price. Either artists should charge more, or perform more shows.
No, it‘s an audience/artist experience problem. I worked for one of Australia's biggest outdoor summer music festivals through the 2000s (I built a direct ticket selling platform for them). Their popularity grew each year, and, sure, they could have just raised their prices to try and match supply and demand. They 100% did not want to do that because they knew it would completely change the audience demographics and…
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#205Auction. Auction is the answer. Or, when a tour is announced, start tickets at 10X the regular price and have it drop down to the regular price over the course of a couple of weeks in a simple time based mechanism. After that, if tickets are not sold out it continues to drop until sold or it hits a reserve price for Door tickets. Good for artists, fair from a market perspective and gets rid of scalpers
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#206Auction. Auction is the answer. Or, when a tour is announced, start tickets at 10X the regular price and have it drop down to the regular price over the course of a couple of weeks in a simple time based mechanism. After that, if tickets are not sold out it continues to drop until sold or it hits a reserve price for Door tickets. Good for artists, fair from a market perspective and gets rid of scalpers
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#207For those against this: I'm curious to hear your take on how you'd stop/mitigate scalping.
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> Why should anything be done? Because there is demand for it. A lot of people like going to live music and theatre events and scalpers make it more difficult and more expensive for them. Why shouldn't anything be done? Because capitalism is God?
A lot of people like going to live music and theatre events and scalpers make it more difficult and more expensive for them Scalpers make it possible to get a ticket at market price, instead of maybe being able to get it for less and maybe not being able to get it at any price. It's not at all clear that the latter is better.
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The problem with scalping is scale. A single person reselling a single ticket is completely fine, because that is not a viable business model for enough people to distort the market. Just limit the number of tickets someone can buy to 3-5.
A scalper just pretends to be 200 different people. With 200 different emails and 200 different credit cards. Limiting the number of tickets someone can buy doesn't protect against scalping.
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seems like it would just get botted like anything else and also make it harder for fans of an artist who don't use spotify to get tickets
Surely this will get arbitraged like anything else, where fans who get picks will onsell tickets