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I’ve built a virtual museum with nearly every operating system you can think of

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Post by anthk »

andreww591 wrote: post #156
anthk wrote: post #97

HeliOS and transputers is one of the most interesting systems ever; if you use Golang and/or know 9front and concurrency you'll be at home, because it was concurrent and multicore literally by design where the CPU 'cores' synced themselves with messages. https://www.atarimagazines.com/startv4n4/transputer.html They were pretty much ahead of time with multiprocessing.

Helios unfortunately isn't yet included. Last time I checked the Transputer emulator doesn't support the special Helios I/O server protocol, which is different from the one that the usual occam software used. It's on my long list of emulators/OSes to fix/finish though.

There's some transputer emulator/OS from Biyubi/the Toledo family (the Nanochess guy):

https://github.com/nanochess/transputer

First article in the series:

https://nanochess.org/pascal.html

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Post by bkummel »

dotancohen wrote: post #172
smnplk wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Omg, I am dead. Dick Pick. That is the best name, not just for a developer :D

Just a few weeks ago I met a guy with the same first name, but his last name was Head. No joke. I spared him the jokes.

Dick is a normal, be it old-fashioned, first name in The Netherlands.

Re: I’ve built a virtual museum with nearly every operating system you can think of

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Post by anthk »

ForOldHack wrote: post #168
dosisking wrote: post #164

I couldn't find Emacs?

Although Emacs commonly refers to an editor, It was always so very much more: It is a compiler, an editor, a pain-in-the-arse, one of the most brilliant uses of the blurring of the layers of App/os/hardware. Its a lisp editor, a lisp development environment, a lisp machine, an OS, Its a database, a word processor, a calculator... the only things in computer science that It is not is a spread sheet, and a paint progra…

it's a SpreadSheet by default, and from old times:

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/ses.html

Also:

https://howardism.org/Technical/Emacs/spreadsheet.html

Re: I’ve built a virtual museum with nearly every operating system you can think of

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Post by jolmg »

omnibrain wrote: post #185
lewiscollard wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but I guess there is at least this precedent for using the word like that. In Windows 3.1, the SYSTEM.INI had a setting called "shell" for overriding the default program started after Windows had loaded. Use of the word "shell" in this sense to describe a graphical interface dates back at least this far. There was also a crude character-mode graphical interface called MS-DOS Shell, in 1988. "shell" might be best ge…

It's the shell around the core.

Yes, but because CLIs came before TUIs/GUIs, I thought it only caught with CLIs until Unity (2011) adopted it for GUIs. Turns out there's been some GUIs that have used the term since Windows 3.1 and a TUI in 1988.

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Post by rbanffy »

teh_klev wrote: post #199
rbanffy wrote: post #194

Some I would love to see: - Convergent Technologies CTOS - Whatever the Rational R1000 ran ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_R1000 ) - OS/400 (emulating an AS/400 or IBMi is problematic - not enough information available) - Tandem's NonStop - Stratus' VOS - Nixdorf's NIROS/TAMOS - Data General's RDOS and AOS. DG/UX is also kind of rare (the 88000 was a flop, but it ran on the Eclipse platform)

As a former Data General engineer, I too would like to see some love for RDOS and AOS. And also their diagnostic tool ADES which was a specialised OS in its own right, and ICOS.

I guess you don't happen to have copies of them lying around, do you?

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Post by rbanffy »

jonnyasmar wrote: post #129

What I find interesting about projects like this is how much of the OS "feel" doesn't survive emulation. The visual layer comes through fine, but the things that actually defined the experience — keyboard click latency, the specific mouse acceleration curves of period hardware, the way a CRT scanline gave System 7 fonts a totally different texture than a sharp LCD does, the audible click-thunk of Atari ST or early Ma…

I really love my C64 Maxi - it's a little ARM board running a custom version of (AFAIK) VICE, but it is shaped like a C64/VIC-20/C16. Mine has the VIC-20 colors and keycap titles (the keycaps have the C64 shape though, and caps lock doesn't lock).

It "feels right".

I wish we could have USB versions of period appropriate keyboards such as the VT-100/200/300, the ADM-3A, Apollo, Xerox Star, Symbolics, Apollo Domain etc, as I believe a lot of the realism is the physical parts of the machine you actually touch.

The screen is important, but if you have a fast-refresh HDR monitor, you'll be close enough. Many more recent machines had keyboards that were very close to modern ones and didn't any have special keys absent from a PC-104/105 key one. Mice are also relatively easy, as few machines had very different kinds of mice.

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Post by coldacid »

ForOldHack wrote: post #168
dosisking wrote: post #164

I couldn't find Emacs?

Although Emacs commonly refers to an editor, It was always so very much more: It is a compiler, an editor, a pain-in-the-arse, one of the most brilliant uses of the blurring of the layers of App/os/hardware. Its a lisp editor, a lisp development environment, a lisp machine, an OS, Its a database, a word processor, a calculator... the only things in computer science that It is not is a spread sheet, and a paint progra…

> It is not a spread sheet

org-tables would disagree.

Re: I’ve built a virtual museum with nearly every operating system you can think of

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Post by rbanffy »

VLM wrote: post #71
cf100clunk wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope so, and also that it is a plain black-and-white list.

I can't figure out how to find a list and I believe that's intentional to avoid simplistic copyright search and takedown type of problems. It is aggravating how little information is available on the website. 1) I run my own systems in emulation and its always educational to see how other people handle configuration and sysadmin type problems. Much like programmers reading other programmer's code for educational purp…

> Likewise there seems to be no "The" MVS/360 operating system there's a zillion possible local installs of all capability levels and eras, all very different and fun.

VM and MVS back then were interesting beasts. The source was available and many people customised them extensively.

I have been playing with VM/370 Community Edition for some time (https://rbanffy.github.io/fun-with-big-computers/fun-with-vm...), and it's an interesting environment. The other day I decided to make plain VM/370r6 available as a docker image (alongside my other images) and it is a very bare operating system, much less comfortable to play with than CE. The same applies to MVS 3.8j and the various community enhanced "Turnkey" editions.

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Post by kramit1288 »

andreww591 wrote: post #142
kramit1288 wrote: post #38

quite impressive, how did you collected? just find images online or you actually have all of these OS.

The vast majority were downloaded. A few I got when I exchanged compilation DVDs with someone in Finland in 2006 and 2009 (I uploaded the images on those to BetaArchive back then and they've made their way onto various other sites). The only ones that I have that were installed from images I dumped from original media that hadn't been previously shared were LynxOS 4.0 and MaxOS Linux (not to be confused with macOS, i…

interesting, traces goes back to 2006. thats cool :)
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