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I turned a $80 RK3562 Android tablet into a Debian Linux workstation

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Re: I turned a $80 RK3562 Android tablet into a Debian Linux workstation

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Post by wltr »

Dead_Lemon wrote: post #188
tomaskafka wrote: post #167

This is exactly what I want from the iPad Pro. Unlock the virtualization support to let me have a debian/ubuntu VM with a complete development environment that I could take for holiday to make emergency fixes, and leave the precious MBP at home.

Consider Asahi Linux limited feature support for the M1, after all these years, this is not going to ever happen. Its not like Apple has every shown any interest in opening their hardware up to 3rd party OS support and nor will they.

Did you mean M1 MacBook Air/Pro or is it now possible to install it on an iPad?

Re: I turned a $80 RK3562 Android tablet into a Debian Linux workstation

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Post by __mharrison__ »

dakolli wrote: post #119
ksh09 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It helps for fuzzing, maintaining and is actually a great help for seniors, maybe not for the ones who don't care for the project and publish slop. It could now actually help a lot in some ways not just coding though but things surrounding project management.

No it doesn't. It helps lazy people. It helps Lazy seniors, it helps lazy project managers. You have this ass backwards. It helps everyone who is Lazy.

(Most) developers and computers users are inherently lazy. That's why we write programs. So the computer can do it for us.

Re: I turned a $80 RK3562 Android tablet into a Debian Linux workstation

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Post by __mharrison__ »

theragra wrote: post #94
roger_ wrote: post #4

I love how easy AI makes it to hack devices that otherwise wouldn't be worth the time.

Yeah. It makes me wonder if it would be possible to reverse engeneer firmware for popular TQ ebike motors. This firmware can be downloaded if you intercept dealer tool API calls. I have no experience at all with this, otherwise I would probably try. I decompiled dealer tool, but it it quite complex WPF app and I cannot make it compilable. Make latest iteration of Claude can. It takes a lot of time, otherwise I would…

If it has an android app, you probably can. The AI will most likely decompile the app and inject bits necessary to figure out reverse engineering.

At least that's what happened when I created a Python sdk for my $500 video light.

Re: I turned a $80 RK3562 Android tablet into a Debian Linux workstation

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Post by jeroenhd »

regularfry wrote: post #198
jeroenhd wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a device running Android on a bottom-of-the-range SoC with, according to the description, 5 out of "9" gigabytes of "RAM" running from swap space on the internal storage. Perhaps Doogee could've ported Android better, but I don't think Android will ever run smoothly on this device. Android contains a lot of tricks to cache as much as possible in RAM so things like sleep/wakeup and app launching can be very fast.…

It's a particular choice of terminal, that. I can't help wondering how quick it would be with urxvt or similar. I'll probably pick one up in a few weeks to find out myself.

On the Android side there are faster launchers and faster terminal apps as well. Loading fully-featured, touch-friendly apps just takes a while on hardware like that.

I've run postmarketOS on an old Galaxy Tab II back in the day and that had similar (though much worse) issues. You can open minimal applications quite quickly, but the on-screen keyboard doesn't open and trying to things like scaling are likely broken.

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Post by djfergus »

kokada wrote: post #180
tech4bot wrote: post #174

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Exactly. The hardware is already powerful enough. An iPad Pro with unlocked virtualization and a proper Linux VM would be an amazing travel dev machine. This is the reason I made this project, and I am still exploring for other tablets with better resolution and more resources.

That is also my dream, iPads Pro are very expensive but the hardware is so good (that is including the Magic Keyboard). BTW OP, have you ever tried a hybrid Chromebook tablet like Lenovo Duet 3? This is my favorite device for travel exactly because it is so good as a small Linux machine. Crostini fits the "I want to run a Linux VM". You can even use postmarketOS if you want an even more "traditional" Linux experience…

PostmarketOS is amazing on supported arm chromebooks. Unfortunately the newest 'community' level supported devices are all from the early 2020's and are getting a bit long in the tooth, especially when it comes to web browsing. I have a few that I throw in a bag for beach/jungle holidays - they are literal e-waste, something liberating about carrying a laptop that's worth significantly less than a decent family meal.

"Another issue is that this device is working well enough in v25.12 release, but I tried edge once (the rolling release channel) and my touchpad started to work in absolute instead of relative mode."

I (foolishly) did an apk upgrade and ran into this one - an AI fixed it for me, its caused by keyd having a too broad device mask (0000:0000) so it grabs everything including the touchpad causing havok. From my noteslop: "The fix was to patch /usr/bin/pmos-generate-cros-keymap to match the exact cros_ec keyboard ID, k:0000:0000:af5c732c, then regenerate the config and restart keyd so it no longer grabs the touchpad. "

Re: I turned a $80 RK3562 Android tablet into a Debian Linux workstation

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Post by mghackerlady »

tomaskafka wrote: post #167

This is exactly what I want from the iPad Pro. Unlock the virtualization support to let me have a debian/ubuntu VM with a complete development environment that I could take for holiday to make emergency fixes, and leave the precious MBP at home.

Pine64s pinetab is pretty nice for this. Comes with a nice keyboard/trackpad case

Re: I turned a $80 RK3562 Android tablet into a Debian Linux workstation

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Post by Rohansi »

NooneAtAll3 wrote: post #73
Rohansi wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> main trouble to me has been caused by unity games Generally it's probably just bad optimization. But that only gets you so far because Unity's asset streaming is designed to work with level-based games. It will only let you unload assets if you package them per-level and then swap them in and out at load screens between levels. Absolutely useless for games like KSP.

> Absolutely useless for games like KSP. and yet KSP flies fine, while visual novels crash

Can't blame the engine for all of the poorly made games!

Re: I turned a $80 RK3562 Android tablet into a Debian Linux workstation

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Post by mghackerlady »

djfergus wrote: post #205
kokada wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is also my dream, iPads Pro are very expensive but the hardware is so good (that is including the Magic Keyboard). BTW OP, have you ever tried a hybrid Chromebook tablet like Lenovo Duet 3? This is my favorite device for travel exactly because it is so good as a small Linux machine. Crostini fits the "I want to run a Linux VM". You can even use postmarketOS if you want an even more "traditional" Linux experience…

PostmarketOS is amazing on supported arm chromebooks. Unfortunately the newest 'community' level supported devices are all from the early 2020's and are getting a bit long in the tooth, especially when it comes to web browsing. I have a few that I throw in a bag for beach/jungle holidays - they are literal e-waste, something liberating about carrying a laptop that's worth significantly less than a decent family meal.…

I've always been disappointed with postmarket for its intended purpose (it's supposed to be a phone os) but as a thin client OS it is best in class.

Re: I turned a $80 RK3562 Android tablet into a Debian Linux workstation

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Post by whizzter »

fsflover wrote: post #187
tomaskafka wrote: post #167

This is exactly what I want from the iPad Pro. Unlock the virtualization support to let me have a debian/ubuntu VM with a complete development environment that I could take for holiday to make emergency fixes, and leave the precious MBP at home.

Here is the tablet that can do this: https://puri.sm/products/librem-11 . It can even run Qubes OS.

Feels not entirely underpowered compared to ARM alternatives, does it have a somewhat decent battery life though?
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