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StarFighter 16-Inch

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Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by aduty »

nottorp wrote: post #170
yreg wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are mandated to provide 2-year legal guarantee under EU consumer protection law when they target EU consumers -> i.e. operate an eshop that ships to EU and sells in local currencies. Regardless of where they are located.

And those EU consumer protection laws apply outside the EU? I know that USers think their laws apply everywhere, but that's just a myth.

You realize that the EU as a whole believes this and actively attempts to enforce it on citizens of other countries, right?

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by yreg »

nottorp wrote: post #170
yreg wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are mandated to provide 2-year legal guarantee under EU consumer protection law when they target EU consumers -> i.e. operate an eshop that ships to EU and sells in local currencies. Regardless of where they are located.

And those EU consumer protection laws apply outside the EU? I know that USers think their laws apply everywhere, but that's just a myth.

Same goes for e.g. GDPR compliance. You need to comply with GDPR when offering services to individuals in the EU no matter where you are based.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by yreg »

maxerickson wrote: post #181
looperhacks wrote: post #169

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They sell to the EU, so they have to follow their regulations. If they don't, the devices can be seized by customs. Tbh there are more issues if they wanted to be compliant with EU regulations. I'm fine that they aren't compliant (they aren't in the EU, after all), but it's something to be aware of when ordering from them.

Wouldn't customs seizing the device be a bigger problem for the importer?

From consumer perspective it's the problem of the seller. I would ask for a refund and if they refused I would do a chargeback.

They don't have to do business in EU if they don't want to follow the rules.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by lpcvoid »

sho_hn wrote: post #32

This is lovely. I'd love it if this or the Framework Pro also had OLED options, though. My aging Thinkpad P1 (1st Gen) has a great LCD, but it's also the last non-OLED screen in my life, and I don't think I can buy another laptop without it. In fact it would be a purchase decision driver/upgrade incentive for me. This and longer battery life. Even though I build lots of C++ code, I still don't think I need more than…

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Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by ghosty141 »

puzzlingcaptcha wrote: post #130
tarjei_huse wrote: post #84

A framework competitor! Most of all I love the keyboard. Full size arrow keys as well as home, end and page up/down nearby. I wish framework laptops could come with multiple possible keyboard layouts like the one on the picture.

StarLabs predates Framework by a couple years. Framework just does advertising to geeks better.

Framework actually ships its products and has tons of public reviews etc. way before StarLabs got a single laptop out.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by jamespo »

Has almost everything I want, full size cursor + dedicated home/end/pgup/pgdown but fingerprint sensor would have been nice, although linux support for those is dodgy.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by neals »

I've been working from a ARM windows laptop for a year now and have gotten so used to a full day of battery, I don't even bring a charger anymore. I would love a framwork or Starfigher laptop, but I don't feel like the batterylife on intel and amd is there yet?

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by Tade0 »

tkz1312 wrote: post #159
close04 wrote: post #124

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Except that if you want to save on RAM you'll also have to pick the lower resolution screen and lower rated CPU. These aren't easy upgrades later on.

at least for a framework they are very easy upgrades tbh

I love the fact that the bezel is held on by magnets.

Last time I tried to replace the display in a laptop, I had plastic bits of bezel flying all around.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by chao- »

oompydoompy74 wrote: post #199
chao- wrote: post #182

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Unless you meant buying an entire server (instead of laptop/desktop components), it won't work out the way you are describing. Prices may come down, but the components for the datacenters market aren't fungible with the components for laptop or desktop. You might not know what is being "earmarked" in this case? Yes, the DRAM dies all come from the same wafer supply and fab capacity, and those limits are the cause of…

I have some amount of confidence that the sellers on AliExpress will figure out how to create cheap hardware that makes use out of all of this when it hits the secondary market.

Yes, but also no?

For standard desktop CPUs, the memory controller doesn't support the signaling required to communicate with an RDIMM. There's no clever AliExpress adapter that will magically give a component within your CPU capabilities that it simply doesn't have.

However, if you have a true workstation, you don't even need some adapter from AliExpress! Xeon 600, Threadripper 7000, Threadripper 9000 all support RDIMMs natively.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

morserer wrote: post #179
InsideOutSanta wrote: post #141

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I just ordered my Framework without any memory or storage, hoping that by the time it arrives, I'll be able to pick up some RAM and an SSD for a more reasonable price. If not, I'll just grab something from a drawer and use it underspecced until prices normalize.

Smart move! You have lpcamm2 just sitting around in a drawer? Or did you get last-gen?

Went with the AMD option for this reason.
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