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Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by rpdillon »

Timon3 wrote: post #177
rpdillon wrote: post #163

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Indeed. I wonder if the folks rejecting Brave have also vetted the political beliefs of everyone that delivers their packages, manufactured their phone, and grown their food. The injection of politics into absolutely everything is so arbitrary and harmful.

Why should they have to vet everyone? If I learn that the people who deliver my packages, manufacture my phones, or grow my food support practices that I deem fundamentally harmful to society, I change my behavior accordingly. Where does this weird idea come from that I have to vet literally everyone for my rejection of Brave to be valid? > The injection of politics into absolutely everything is so arbitrary and harm…

You're probably going to want to take a look at how your smartphone battery is made. You're taking a principled stand on the basis of not using a browser from a company cofounded by a guy that voted differently than you, but it sounds like you're willfully ignoring the child slave labor used to create the device you're using to type that opinion.

Do as you please, but it makes no sense to me, and doesn't strike me a principled at all: it's basically virtue signaling. But then again, I don't view people that hold different political views as my enemy. They're just people I disagree with, and they can still make a great browser, even though we disagree on some things.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by Timon3 »

MarsIronPI wrote: post #196
Timon3 wrote: post #188

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What exactly is a "technical difference", and why is only that relevant? I am more than my interactions with software and companies, just like every other human. Why should I focus on an arbitrary subset of factors when making decisions?

Because the technical factors are what you experience when you interact with software written by a company/person?

And the non-technical factors are what my friends and loved ones have to experience due to Brendan Eich's choices. So again, why should I ignore them? I'm more than a user of software.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by throwawaypath »

cookiengineer wrote: post #75
Zardoz84 wrote: post #69

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> Good luck with the main developer being in the alt right. Sources? I can't find anything on that via google/ddg (Germany) edit: oof. [1] https://drewdevault.com/blog/Cloudflare-and-fascists/

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Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by jim33442 »

lxgr wrote: post #84
OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #6

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The day Firefox drops MV2 is the day I find a new browser. We're already at <1% usershare, it's not like there's safety in numbers here

What exactly is your gripe with MV3? Many people seem to treat it synonymously with "no more procedural request blocking", but that's not a thing Mozilla ever did: > For Manifest V3 extensions, Chrome no longer supports the "webRequestBlocking" permission (except for policy-installed extensions). Instead, the "webRequest" and "webRequestAuthProvider" permissions enable you to supply credentials asynchronously. Firefo…

Look I'm not an expert in web browsers, but I defer to those extension authors who definitely are. There's some reason uBO doesn't work well in MV3 even though they tried. Whatever technical explanation there is for why MV3 is fine, there's some caveat not mentioned.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by jim33442 »

PufPufPuf wrote: post #138
Steve6 wrote: post #9

I migrated from Firefox to Brave years ago, and it's been incredible. It's easy to turn off the crypto stuff and turn on more advanced privacy protection. Then it's just a fast browser with awesome adblocking. My favorite recent feature has been Brave Scriptlets, which are just little javascript functions you can run on specific sites. I've replaced most of the add ons I used with small scripts. Pretty nice. I would…

So like... Google Chrome with adblocker and Tampermonkey bundled? Just need to disable the cryptocurrency stuff? You don't really make it sound good.

What's the alternative if you want full ad-blocking in a Chromium browser? I use Firefox normally and wouldn't trust Brave, but there are some sites FF doesn't work with, so it's understandable why some people wouldn't use it.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by crazygringo »

Moldoteck wrote: post #165
crazygringo wrote: post #161

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But MV3 supports uBlock Origin Lite. Which, in my experience, blocks ads just as well, but also lets pages load significantly faster. MV3 supports uBlock.

It supports limited ublock functionality, not all of it, which will gradually be exploited by ad corps like google unless you think those are saints

The point is that it supports everything that currently matters in any substantial way.

Lots of people have been pointing out that ad companies will figure ways out around it. But they really haven't been.

MV3 and UBOL have been in wide usage for about a year and a half now. And nothing has been changing. Adblocking continues to be great.

The fact of the matter is, the ad block lists were getting so large and the JavaScript functionality was slow and it was significantly impacting page load times. UBOL uses vastly more efficient compiled code that is part of the browser and is just a far better ad blocking experience altogether.

But I guess that just doesn't fit the narrative that people want to believe, where MV3 was part of a big evil plan.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by crazygringo »

ragall wrote: post #187
crazygringo wrote: post #161

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But MV3 supports uBlock Origin Lite. Which, in my experience, blocks ads just as well, but also lets pages load significantly faster. MV3 supports uBlock.

Most definitely not as well.

It most definitely is as well. In fact it's better because you don't have the slower page loading times anymore.

And everyone I know who used UBO and switched to UBOL has had no complaints about ads not being blocked.

Whereas people who don't actually use it love to continue to insist that it's this degraded experience that doesn't work as well. And usually when one of them comes up with an example of some ad not being blocked, it turns out because they hadn't configured UBOL to use complete blocking mode.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by lxgr »

ragall wrote: post #200
tyushk wrote: post #199

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Unlike Chrome, Firefox did not remove the older API.

What's this supposed to mean ? OP was saying that MV3 is feature-equivalent to MV2 and would like to see MV2 support removed from Firefox just as it was from Chrome. I replied pointing out that's utterly false.

MV2 and MV3 are feature equivalent on Firefox when it comes to request blocking.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by lxgr »

Moldoteck wrote: post #165
crazygringo wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But MV3 supports uBlock Origin Lite. Which, in my experience, blocks ads just as well, but also lets pages load significantly faster. MV3 supports uBlock.

It supports limited ublock functionality, not all of it, which will gradually be exploited by ad corps like google unless you think those are saints

It supports everything on Firefox on MV3, but not on Chrome.
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