> Half of the world’s aspartame is made by Ajinomoto of Tokyo—the same company that first brought us MSG back in 1909. There is nothing wrong with MSG either
But they were involved in price fixing lysine. And that was wrong.
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#202> Half of the world’s aspartame is made by Ajinomoto of Tokyo—the same company that first brought us MSG back in 1909. There is nothing wrong with MSG either
Ajinomoto is also the worlds largest (95% market share) supplier of build up film necessary for integrated circuit packaging.
https://www.ajinomoto.com/innovation/our_innovation/buildupf...
Re: Aspartame is not that bad? (2022)
#203When I drink a single can of Diet Coke or anything with aspartame, I get crippling stomach aches and then sudden diarrhea, all within about 2 hrs and very predictable. It's definitely not harmless. This doesn't happen to me with stevia or sucralose, and I know sucralose isn't good for your either.
Funny, I have this with Coke Zero (which I believe uses stevia), but not with aspartame.
The sale of this stuff should be prohibited, especially on long intercontinental flights.
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#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds like an allergy.
I definitely wouldn't be surprised if that were the case
Or psychosomatic.
It's possible she believes that those items all trigger her migraines therefore her body gives her a migraine when she believes she's had one of her triggers.
A big tell would be her getting a migraine and blaming it on "hidden MSG" in a food item that doesn't have it.
Or her not getting migraine from foods that have MSG naturally but is never pointed out. Like tomatoes.
Re: Aspartame is not that bad? (2022)
#205It's probably not great if you're drinking dozens of cans of sugar free soda every day. All I really know is don't take health advice from influencers, especially if they're selling something, and don't take health advice from people who support deregulation (less industry transparency, oversight, and consequences won't make food or anything safer.)
Maybe. I doubt most consumers of sugar free soda are drinking more than 4 (which is already a lot). I have to imagine that, like most things, most people consume them in moderation and have no ill effects. That said, I have to imagine if you go from drinking ten sugared sodas a day to ten diet sodas a day, your life will change in a very positive way. That would be removing 1500 calories of pure sugar from your diet…
Except that four cans of soda is not much more than a single 44oz soda fountain drink at QT and folk gobble down those often 3 times a day.
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's just a preference thing. They taste bad _to you_, not to everyone. That's great, but it still means I can't have soft drinks any more.
Most soft drinks are not made with artificial sweeteners. Where are you that the only available soft drinks are artificially sweetened? Never been to a restaurant or fast food place or grocery store that only carried the diet/zero and didn't carry the standard coke or pepsi.
At this point I think it almost definitely is "most" in USA at least, going by volume/count/shelf-space.
Like >90% of energy drinks use at least one (normal red bull is a rare exception), and diet sodas typically have more shelf space than regular from what I see, often by a huge margin.
Almost all gatorade-likes have it now too (I typically can't find even a single counter-example in a store, unless they're one of the oddballs carrying regular gatorade (most do not)), often also including regular sugars. Even stuff you'd hope would be maximally-simple like pedialyte has it in almost every variety.
Almost literally every single water-flavoring in stores uses them, I go years without seeing unsweetened or sugar only. skratchlabs.com is sometimes in expensive bike or running stores though, yay.
Stuff like Liquid Death used to be just low amounts of sugar, but now has stevia in it too. The same happened with Bragg's drinking vinegar(???!).
It's wild to be someone who dislikes the flavor of these things and read labels, and watch the massive rise in use in despair. They're in lots of candy bars now too! That was a rather nasty discovery.
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7014832/
Did you read this paper? Do you really think this is good evidence for the claim? I'd love to hear why. I could give a fulsome critique of it but I think the simpler thing to say just to kick this off is that I could give you a PubMed cite to back basically any claim, true or otherwise.
You really need a large volume of repeated results by different groups doing the experiment/research so you get the proper regression to the mean. Individual papers are more important at saying "here is something interesting that others should also check out".
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not "I don't like the taste". It is "these taste like they're contaminated with antifreeze". They taste like they've been intentionally adulterated with the stuff they use to stop people drinking poisonous things.
That's exactly my experience. What's interesting is that the taste is also very similar to the taste/sensation I get when I have a viral infection.
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#209Re: Aspartame is not that bad? (2022)
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you read this paper? Do you really think this is good evidence for the claim? I'd love to hear why. I could give a fulsome critique of it but I think the simpler thing to say just to kick this off is that I could give you a PubMed cite to back basically any claim, true or otherwise.
You really need a large volume of repeated results by different groups doing the experiment/research so you get the proper regression to the mean. Individual papers are more important at saying "here is something interesting that others should also check out".
Right, but what about this particular paper? What do you think of it?