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I stopped drinking coffee for a month and didn't notice any difference in my anxiety/mood/etc, so I returned to my regular schedule (3-4 large cups in the mornings).
Same here, and it made me wonder, why did I go back to drinking coffee? My best explanation is that there are effects, I just suck at self-awareness :)
Caffeine is an extremely potent drug. It’s actually kind of crazy to think that a large portion of a country’s population could be “high” on it basically all of the time. And there is a huge industry in place for delivering said drug to as many people as possible by having it available on almost every street corner. And that most people take a fairly non-chalant attitude to giving this drug to kids through sweet drin…
There is another huge industry to produce and deliver a pile of white powder to as many people as possible. Sugar. Highly refined, pure, hmmmm.
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I don't have the same experience, and I drink one cup of coffee (270 ml) almost every day. No agitation, no impulsiveness. I can drink coffee in late evening (let's say 8 pm) and sleep well. I guess I'm trying to say that we should not project our own experience on others, everyone is different.
In my experience, this is common among people with ADHD (myself, friends with ADHD, family with ADHD, psychologist’s patients anecdotal evidence). YMMV
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Quitting caffeine after decades of use was a bit of a mixed bag for me in the short term, but positive in the long term. Going caffeine-free made it much easier to lose weight as I have far less cravings for high carbs and sugar now, presumably this is related to the impulsivity impact talked about in the paper. Going caffeine-free also made me very depressed for a while with severe anhedonia, this lasted way longer…
> Going caffeine-free made it much easier to lose weight as I have far less cravings That's surprising to me. In my case one of the reasons I discontinued it (emotional effects aside) was mild but consistent weight loss. The stimulant part of the effect seems to suppress my appetite quite effectively although at least part of that is likely indirect due to sustained task focus leading me to skip meals.
I think this is one of those YMMV things with caffeine.
It is an appetite suppressant in general but for me it seems to cause a significant rebound effect.
On caffeine I would eat less early in the day (when I was most using caffeine) but then I would get severe cravings for carbs/sugar later at night.
Without the caffeine everything is nice and evened out and I feel way more in control of my eating habits without really trying.
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I drink a small cup in the morning (like 250 ml) and 1-2 Moka pot espressos (like one shot). This typically happens between 7-10am. No more coffee after that most of the time. I like to keep it in the morning routine with breakfast. Green tea and water in my afternoons. Personally, I don't feel any kind of "drug like" effects from this routine. I wonder about the strength of coffee people are drinking and the effects…
It's less about the strength of coffee than about your metabolism. I used to be unaffected by caffeine, and now it takes a few sips in the morning to mess with my sleep in the evening - sth that started happening in my twenties I believe, possibly liver-related.
I can have a coffee a bit before bed if I really want. I also used to think I had a "high metabolism", but don't say that anymore since it comes off as kind of bogus.
After habitually consuming caffeine (not in coffee form) daily, usually multiple times a day, for more than a decade, a horrible mental health incident happened to me that forced me to stop it for a while. Afterwards I didn't resume the habit, and so I no longer have a tolerance. This has let me evaluate what caffeine does with fresh eyes, so to say, because I can now consume it occasionally while having many non-caf…
How do you know that caffeine was the cause?
It likely was a contributor, insofar as the incident had poor sleep as a contributing factor, and I do know with some certainty the caffeine habit had been causing some (likely not all) of my sleep problems. I can also tell you the very worst day of that incident was when I mistakenly consumed caffeine again prior to being recovered enough for that to be safe; that was a horrible glimpse at what that drug can do to you when you're in an already very unstable state. Caffeine definitely can aggravate all kinds of symptoms, even when you're in a relatively stable state. It's a stimulant, after all.
But I think caffeine consumption is… only one factor of many in causes of that incident, and doesn't deserve any special blame. The relevance of the mental health incident here is really that it gave me a chance and a good reason to abruptly stop, and therefore also the opportunity to see what getting the brain back into the caffeination ritual again feels like. (I've tried taking it for a few consecutive days more than once since then, and not particularly enjoyed it. I've also tried it on single isolated days.)
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This study is Irish, so I think they likely use 170ml cups? That means a normal mug of ~500ml is 3 cups. Perhaps they even use US coffee cup size, which is 118ml? Honestly, using an unit of measurement that varies from 118ml to 250ml in a scientific paper brings the whole paper into question.
The reactions to your comment got me curious enough to check. The mug I use for coffee and tea holds almost exactly 400 mL when comfortably full and I used to drink 2 of those per day (across 12 hours or so). Based on that, personally I'd consider ~800 mL of black coffee to be on the high end of moderate consumption.
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This study is Irish, so I think they likely use 170ml cups? That means a normal mug of ~500ml is 3 cups. Perhaps they even use US coffee cup size, which is 118ml? Honestly, using an unit of measurement that varies from 118ml to 250ml in a scientific paper brings the whole paper into question.
Okay, you'll definitely have to explain the NORMAL mug of HALF A LITER!
It seems people think 500ml is more liquid than it is due to how thin cans/bottles are comparatively.
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This study is Irish, so I think they likely use 170ml cups? That means a normal mug of ~500ml is 3 cups. Perhaps they even use US coffee cup size, which is 118ml? Honestly, using an unit of measurement that varies from 118ml to 250ml in a scientific paper brings the whole paper into question.
I’m Irish. A NORMAL mug of 500ml??? this is insanity to me