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Let's confirm your claim through DNA tests to establish ancestry of Israelis and Palestinians. Oh, they're banned in Israel?! Why would they possibly be banned?? Could it be that...
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as long as people keep voting for politicians that are complicit with pro zionist policies
Part of the problem is the conflation of Zionism with genocidal government. There is no room for nuiance. A Zionist can want Israelites to live in peace where they currently are and not harm others, and certainly not commit horrible atrocities against other people. Yet, even this kind of Zionist is under their own genocidal threat, "from the river to the sea", and instead of their being a sensible perspective of "may…
So, when Zionists used the same language [1] it's for peace but if goyim do then it's a threat, and a genocidal one, no less?
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_river_to_the_sea#Hist...
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Whether the IDF knew about the attack or not does not change anything for the argument i made. Unless you're claiming they orchestrated it.
The quotes I gave you from Israeli leadership unfortunately do change everything for the argument you made.
The zionist goal is already acheived as i understand it, there is no need to fund zionism. israel doesn't need "funding" to sustain itself either, it's so prosperous on its own, even here on YC you'll see many startups based in Israel.
zionism isn't synonymous with gaza or west bank expansionism, or any act of violence. I keep seeing these types of arguments and i can't help but ponder if you're just repeating some disinformation campaign to prop-up and legitimize the anti-semitic reasoning used by the very same people fighting wars to supposedly prevent it (with some degree of legitimacy).
If you said zionism to enable the concept of a jewish state is reasonable, and even it wasn't historically, it is impractical to fight against it, and that israel has the right to exist. But the recent wars and harm against civilians is abhorrent, then you would be criticizing them in a way that actually makes sense, and can be used to actually do something to stop them. but your (and others') agenda only helps one side, and it is neither palestinians, their plight for justice, nor the side of peace.
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Let's confirm your claim through DNA tests to establish ancestry of Israelis and Palestinians. Oh, they're banned in Israel?! Why would they possibly be banned?? Could it be that...
Friend of mine was invited to a wedding of Jewish friends, and commented to them how impressed she was that they'd invited all their Arab friends along to the wedding as well (she was being sincere, not sarcastic). The conversation got rather chilly after that...
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they were merchants and artisans part of an international diaspora spanning thousands of miles, it was really an economic role that they chose to assume. they weren't victims of a racist occupation like arabs in the west bank today. some would say that they were kicked out of their homeland so it wasn't really a choice but there's actually no evidence that this ever happened. for one thing, jews have always lived in…
> economic role that they chose to assume The only choice they had which would have allowed them assume any other role was conversion to Islam. > no evidence that this ever happened There is obviously evidence and there several major Jewish or Samaritan revolts until the Romans lost Palestine in the 600s with the last revolt being quite brutal. Of course the scale of expulsions, forced conversions and massacres is no…
if there were several jewish revolts until the 600s that is evidence that they did not result in significant expulsions. the fact that the region became majority christian is not evidence of a major expulsion of jews and subsequent replacement by christians, likely they mostly converted just like how most christians would end up converting to islam. In any case it wasn't muslims who expelled them so they can't take it out on the indigenous muslims of the west bank.
there are records of jewish presence across the medditerranean region and the near east for centuries prior to the first roman jewish war
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When an “Islamic country” starts getting several billions of dollars in aid from the US and begins “quadruple tapping” civilians, then I suppose there will be some outrage. In the meantime, this outrage appears to be more based in the criminal conduct of a genocidal state than any religious amenity
How do you think Islam spread? Peacefully? Look at history. And look at Islamic texts that preach the subjugation and killing of anyone who isn’t Islamic. It’s much more of a supremacist culture than any other.
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Nobody says this about any Islamic country
When an “Islamic country” starts getting several billions of dollars in aid from the US and begins “quadruple tapping” civilians, then I suppose there will be some outrage. In the meantime, this outrage appears to be more based in the criminal conduct of a genocidal state than any religious amenity
Hell, Pakistan got more than $19 billion in U.S. aid from 2002–2010, plus a $7.5 billion non-military package over five years, and Afghanistan got more than $109 billion total through USAID.
Egypt gets about $2 billion a year on average since 1979, mostly military aid.
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Until recently, in the US at least, there wasn’t any non-zionist choice. Same for the UK and for Germany. Thank God this is changing, but it’s going much too slowly.
Who's the 'non-zionist' choice in the US?
An example of this. Politicians are still politicians, and what a politician DOES is far more important than what one says.
https://www.aza-pac.com/our-candidates
That being said, Zionism has become political poison. Even with massive funding, pro-Israel and Zionist candidates are losing left and right.
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> I wonder if the terrorists learnt this technique from the US coalition or vice-versa. Who are "the terrorists"?
I was referring to the terrorists in Iraq who were depicted in 'The Hurt locker'