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Re: Ban the sale of precise geolocation

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Post by maximinus_thrax »

drysine wrote: post #180
wafflemaker wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somebody once said that if Stalin had access to television, he would never have to kill 20+ million ppl. What would he do with all that data? No idea.

I'm no fun of Stalin, but this meme about 20+ million victims needs to be purged. "The scholarly consensus affirms that archival materials declassified in 1991 contain irrefutable data far superior to sources used prior to 1991, such as statements from emigres and other informants. Before the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the archival revelations, some historians estimated that the numbers killed by Stalin's re…

> I'm no fun of Stalin

I would argue for the generality of this characterization

Re: Ban the sale of precise geolocation

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Post by breppp »

mapt wrote: post #197
breppp wrote: post #193

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Let's see, during Stalin's Rule 18 million people went through forced labor camps and roughly 10% died, around 1.8 million Let's add around 5 million for man made famine, and probably a 2 million for arbitrary executions and deportations, while many estimate the full death count as between 15-20 million As far I can understand the top range of estimates for CECOT, which is a non American facility, are that 500 died,…

Death rates are particularly hard to compare because part of the idea of El Salvador's system is that people are expected to die there - there is no release policy - yet most of them are young healthy men recently detained. If we just look at incarceration rates: CECOT is one facility, but around 2% of El Salvador's population has been imprisoned by Bukele's operation. In 1950 the USSR had a population of around 180…

Imagine how lost your morale compass needs to be to defend Stalin because you don't like Trump.

Apart for the fact that people were released from El Salvador system, the population percentage is wrong for El Salvador, USSR and US, the difference between slavery camps and a penal system, Gaza not being a prison.

But what are you really saying, that the 200-500 dead in El Salvador, most non associated with Trump, makes Trump equivalent with Stalin's 15 million dead? Does that make sense?

Re: Ban the sale of precise geolocation

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Post by stult »

eptcyka wrote: post #135

I want geolocation to not be sold. Yet, I do not believe we have been successful in banning the sale of cocaine and elephant tusks. What makes us think this will be an easier problem to solve?

What a facile point. By your logic, literally nothing should be banned. Murder, rape, etc.

Re: Ban the sale of precise geolocation

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Post by mapt »

breppp wrote: post #202
mapt wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Death rates are particularly hard to compare because part of the idea of El Salvador's system is that people are expected to die there - there is no release policy - yet most of them are young healthy men recently detained. If we just look at incarceration rates: CECOT is one facility, but around 2% of El Salvador's population has been imprisoned by Bukele's operation. In 1950 the USSR had a population of around 180…

Imagine how lost your morale compass needs to be to defend Stalin because you don't like Trump. Apart for the fact that people were released from El Salvador system, the population percentage is wrong for El Salvador, USSR and US, the difference between slavery camps and a penal system, Gaza not being a prison. But what are you really saying, that the 200-500 dead in El Salvador, most non associated with Trump, makes…

I'm not sure you're replying to the right person. I didn't make that claim. I tried to provide meaningful numerical context of mass incarceration.

You state that I have errors - could you point them out?

Re: Ban the sale of precise geolocation

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Post by ninalanyon »

kube-system wrote: post #72
ninalanyon wrote: post #65

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In what sense can the latitude and longitude of my house be called anonymous data?

Ultimately, a map is anonymous data containing lat/lon of everyone's house Alone, these points are not deanonymizing, it's when there's other data associated.

When such data is sold I'm pretty sure it would be more than just list of coordinates.
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