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Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by Daviey »

brazukadev wrote: post #199
Daviey wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know, when I wrote that I genuinely meant it, or at least I think i did. It wasn't supposed to be passive aggressive. :( But that doesn't negate the maintainer talking to people like that (and taking contributions without attribution).. and the net result is I don't want to use the software, and frankly they probably won't miss me.. so the end result is neutral.. I just find it sad.

> You know, when I wrote that I genuinely meant it, or at least I think i did. It wasn't supposed to be passive aggressive. :( That's a great opportunity for self reflection.

Yeah, I take that. I've thought about it much of this evening.

I think at the time I was frustrated, it felt unfair and I couldn't understand it.

Then I thought,this guy probably does need more time off. Which was a genuine thought.

But that is where I should have stopped. The way i expressed it, whilst genuine thought, was expressed in a way which was passive aggressive. I am owning that.

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by _s_a_m_ »

wiether wrote: post #13

People may feel differently about the fee that OpenRouter takes, but I think the service they provide is worth the extra cost. Having access to dozens of models through a single API key, tracking cost of each request, being able to run the same request on different models and comparing their results next to each other, separating usages through different API keys, adding your own presets, setting your routing rules..…

Doesnt Copilot Pro+ does the same?

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by Scene_Cast2 »

extr wrote: post #109

I think you are kidding if you think you are going to be remotely approximately the quantity/quality of output you get from a $100/max sub with Zed/Openrouter. I easily get $1K+ of usage out of my $100 max sub. And that's with Opus 4.6 on high thinking.

Out of curiosity, how many tokens are people using? I checked my openrouter activity - I used about 550 million tokens in the last month, 320M with Gemini and 240M with Opus. This cost me $600 in the past 30 days. $200 on Gemini, $400 on Opus.

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by muyuu »

wiether wrote: post #13

People may feel differently about the fee that OpenRouter takes, but I think the service they provide is worth the extra cost. Having access to dozens of models through a single API key, tracking cost of each request, being able to run the same request on different models and comparing their results next to each other, separating usages through different API keys, adding your own presets, setting your routing rules..…

Have you tried Kilo? I'd like to hear from someone who has tried both to know how do they compare.

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by largbae »

rvnx wrote: post #106
wongarsu wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of inference providers for open models only accept prepaid payments, and managing multiple of those accounts is kind of cumbersome. I could limit myself to a smaller set of providers, but then I'm probably overpaying by more than the 5.5% fee If you're only using flagship model providers then openrouter's value add is a lot more limited

The main thing about Openrouter is also that they take 100% of the risk in case of overcharges from the models, you have an actual hard cap. The minus is that context caching is only moderately working at best, rendering all savings nearly useless.

I haven't noticed any problems with large context requests through OR to e.g. Opus (other than the rate at which my budget gets spent!). Is this a performance thing?

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by AussieWog93 »

alexjplant wrote: post #185
extr wrote: post #109

I think you are kidding if you think you are going to be remotely approximately the quantity/quality of output you get from a $100/max sub with Zed/Openrouter. I easily get $1K+ of usage out of my $100 max sub. And that's with Opus 4.6 on high thinking.

For personal use I've noticed Claude (via the web-based chat UI) making really bizarre mistakes lately like ignoring input or making completely random assumptions. At work Claude Code has turned into an absolute dog. It fails to follow instructions and builds stuff like a lazy junior developer without any architecture, tests, or verification. This is even with max effort, Opus 4.6, multiple agents, early compaction,…

I've noticed the same thing, and even done side by side tests where I compare Claude Code with Cursor both running Opus 4.6.

It seems Cursor somehow builds a better contextual description of the workspace, so the model knows what I'm actually trying to achieve.

The problem is that with Cursor I'm paying per-token, so as GP suggested you can easily spend $100+ per month vs $20 on Claude Code.

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by extr »

veber-alex wrote: post #198
extr wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually find Zed pretty reasonable in terms of memory usage. But yeah, like you say, there are lots of small UX/DX papercuts that are just unfortunate. In some cases I'm not sure it's even Zed's fault, it's just years and years of expecting things to work a certain way because of VS Code and they work differently in Zed. Eg: Ctrl+P "Open Fol.." in Zed does not surface "Opening a Folder". Zed doesn't call them fold…

The issues you described show a critical lack of awareness from the Zed developers that people migrate to their IDE mainly from VS Code. They are blowing their "weirdness budget" on nonsense.

I don't think it's conscious or even a result of not caring about UX/DX. But I do think you're right - I've noticed the loudest voices in their Issue queue are people wanting things like better vim support, helix keybind support (super niche terminal modal editor), etc. Fine if they want to make that their niche but if you are migrating from VS Code like 99% of people you can't have these kinds of papercuts, people will just uninstall.

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by WhyNotHugo »

BeetleB wrote: post #103
sourcecodeplz wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much did it cost for how long?

https://z.ai/subscribe Many of us got the annual Lite plan when they had the $28 discount. But even at $120 I think it's a good deal.

Aliyun had GLM-5, Kimi K2.5 and a few others for ¥40 (~€5) per month. Regrettably, that plan is not longer available for new users, but the new plan is still ~€25.

Z.ai seems crazy expensive in comparisons, although I wonder if inference speeds have a noticeable difference.

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