Live data from Hacker News

AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

showbiz411.com

201–210 of 395 posts

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re not a machine. I’m also tired of hearing that ontological take spouted by AI enthusiasts.

I think humans are machines, they are just vastly more advanced than any machine invented by humans. This is something I thought long before the current AI hype cycle. What do you think are some important differences between machines and humans?

Is there a difference in how you treat machines vs how you treat humans?

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Oh that's what you're banging on about. You think AI is like a demon, or you think LLMs are people too, something like that, hence "I don't care what makes the music". That would otherwise be a spooky and implausible phrase that says something strange about what gives music quality, as if quality in music is something ethereal and mathematical and objective and detached from the human condition, and detached from art…

Are you really suggesting quality in music isn’t largely mathematical?

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>But music? There's basically an inexhaustible supply of human-created tracks that can be accessed for next to nothing. Isn’t this an argument against all new music, even human made? Either we have it all already, or there’s room for new things that we haven’t heard before.

[flagged]

This is what we call in the business a "fever dream"

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#204
post #165

I suspect this is some trick somewhere with purchased views or something. Not that I'm against AI music. I love the various lo-fi / cyberpunk / etc. AI youtube channels. I also enjoy my own suno music. Overall, I'd say AI music dominates my listening these days. It just seems unusual that a lot of people like the same thing. Even the channels on Youtube that I listen to are so prolific (people generate a large amount…

It just seems unusual that a lot of people like the same thing. The same thing happens with non-AI music too. Artists you've never heard of have songs that suddenly become viral.

That's true, but I've noticed that AI text content is very prompter-focused. Someone once described them as dreams - more meaningful to the dreamer than to anyone who has to listen to them narrated. Perhaps it's just inherent to the fact that textual content is rarely viral at that length. It's a base-rate issue.

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#205

I find the production and consumption of AI music to be uniquely... anti-human. You can make utilitarian arguments for most other uses of AI. For example, the code you're generating didn't exist before, and it would take serious time or money to write it. So, I get it, the economic argument is compelling enough. But music? There's basically an inexhaustible supply of human-created tracks that can be accessed for next…

I guess using AI is just the logical continuation of what mainstream pop already did before that: reduce music to the lowest common denominator so it can appeal to as many listeners as possible. AI only speeds up that process.

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#207

I find the production and consumption of AI music to be uniquely... anti-human. You can make utilitarian arguments for most other uses of AI. For example, the code you're generating didn't exist before, and it would take serious time or money to write it. So, I get it, the economic argument is compelling enough. But music? There's basically an inexhaustible supply of human-created tracks that can be accessed for next…

Used Suno to reimagine a handful of my old demos late last year, and honestly the results floored me. I could never release those tracks though, purely out of shame. But it seems pretty practical to study the AI remixes to understand what I like about them, and use these as a practice tool for music production.

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#208

I find the production and consumption of AI music to be uniquely... anti-human. You can make utilitarian arguments for most other uses of AI. For example, the code you're generating didn't exist before, and it would take serious time or money to write it. So, I get it, the economic argument is compelling enough. But music? There's basically an inexhaustible supply of human-created tracks that can be accessed for next…

its changed the way I DJ.... I can be much more expressive.

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As far as I'm concerned we're content scarce and I don't care what makes the music - humans, robots, netherworld demons - I just want good music. Presumably you've already listened to every piece of music ever recorded? Otherwise it seems it would be more efficient to do that first than wait for AI to generate it and you chancing upon it.

All good finds are chanced upon. Just now sometimes it's made by AI.

[deleted]

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#210
I see music as "the space of all possible 5-second clips at stereo 48kHz 24bit depth". If you think about it, that space contains the intro to Stairway to Heaven and Oops I Did It Again, and the end of either song. It contains every 5-second segment of O Fortuna, plus a previously unimagined O Fortuna Remix with MF Doom rapping the pledge of alliegance backwards. My point is, AI is getting good at searching music space for novel patterns, and that's entirely the point of music, not making a career out of being an alcoholic minstrel with a tour bus.

The audience will out the good patterns, and it's up to the musicians or AI companies to serve better patterns.

Post reply on HN