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Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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Post by Xmd5a »

Kim_Bruning wrote: post #114
vintagedave wrote: post #104

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I've run into this, and I highly doubt I am one of the more extraordinary users. I have delays between working with it, don't have many running at once, am running on smaller codebases, etc. Yet just a few minutes ago I hit a quota. In the past I did far more work with it without running into the quota. I emailed their support a few days ago with details, concerns, a link to the twitter thread from one of their emplo…

Fin is the most useless thing ever. There's no obvious way to get reports in front of a human in a timely manner, and there's no clue to believe fin interactions are retained. This does mean ultimately no loyalty. I can't stay loyal to a brand that doesn't actually respond to inquiries, bug reports or down reports at all. I do understand that Anthropic is operating at a tremendous scale and can't have enough humans i…

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Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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Post by ThunderSizzle »

Xmd5a wrote: post #201
Kim_Bruning wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fin is the most useless thing ever. There's no obvious way to get reports in front of a human in a timely manner, and there's no clue to believe fin interactions are retained. This does mean ultimately no loyalty. I can't stay loyal to a brand that doesn't actually respond to inquiries, bug reports or down reports at all. I do understand that Anthropic is operating at a tremendous scale and can't have enough humans i…

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What started that though?

Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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Post by cheschire »

fcarraldo wrote: post #187
cheschire wrote: post #175

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Then your neighbor can charge you up to $1.65 to buy a burger on your behalf and you still get it cheaper.

How can you compete when the algorithms are custom, individualized, and private? How would you even know that you should?

Not competition, but more like an opportunity for a startup to build a solution that fits in the new gap. A marketplace for people to sell their discounts.

Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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Post by blharr »

thisisit wrote: post #105
pxtail wrote: post #53

Recently after noticing how quickly limits are consumed and reading others complaints about same issue on reddit I was wondering how much about this is real error or bug hidden somewhere and how much it's about testing what threshold of constraining limits will be tolerated without cancelling accounts. Eventually, in case of "shit hits the fan" situation it can be always dismissed by waving hands and apologizing (or…

They keep running experiments like free $50 in extra use credits or 2x usage outside certain windows where inference is very slow. You can’t help but think this is all a slowly boiling the frog experiment. Experimenting how much they can charge.

They're boiling the frog pretty quickly, honestly. The token usage has clearly been an issue since using Claude code from the beginning. It just blows through tokens

Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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Post by captainbland »

joshuafuller wrote: post #64
pxtail wrote: post #53

Recently after noticing how quickly limits are consumed and reading others complaints about same issue on reddit I was wondering how much about this is real error or bug hidden somewhere and how much it's about testing what threshold of constraining limits will be tolerated without cancelling accounts. Eventually, in case of "shit hits the fan" situation it can be always dismissed by waving hands and apologizing (or…

This feels a lot like the same playbook we’re seeing with dynamic pricing in retail, just applied to compute instead of products. You never really know what you’re getting, and the rules shift under you. What makes it worse is the lack of transparency. If there were clear, hard limits, people could plan around it. Instead it’s this moving target that makes it impossible to trust for real work. At some point it stops…

It's been pretty clear for a while that companies who have developed foundation models have essentially unprecedented levels of investment to recoup. For all the talk of faster hardware and more efficient models, that spend hasn't gone away and ultimately that investment needs to get a return somewhere.

Dependency on cloud AI models is, in effect, dependency on VC subsidy. From the user's point of view, this dependency is debt which will either be repaid with interest to a model provider or through the hard work of making themselves independent of such models after having become dependent.

Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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Post by captainbland »

gmerc wrote: post #184
falkensmaize wrote: post #178

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I think there’s a pretty good argument to be made that this is discriminatory. Certainly it’s not something I would tolerate as a consumer. I suspect there will be heavy pressure to regulate this practice out of existence if it catches on.

who is going to stop them? the consumer protection bureau?

Depends what the political attitudes are where you live. The EU is unlikely to let it fly for example.

Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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Post by totalmarkdown »

johntash wrote: post #148
devmor wrote: post #97

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This is a real danger that I think a lot of people will run into as prices go up more and more in the future. Completely outside of the productivity debate, offloading cognitive tasks to LLMs leaves you less practiced in them and less ready to do them when the LLM isn't available. When you have to delegate only certain tasks to the LLM for financial reasons, you may find yourself very frustrated.

I'm really hoping locally hosted llms get to the point of competing with current-day frontier models so that we all have "unlimited" usage.

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Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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Post by therobots927 »

There is both the opportunity for and an incentive towards these companies actively deceiving users, both by hiding the true amount of subsidies behind AI output and by shuffling users between high and low quality models in order to minimize said subsidies. It’s difficult for me to understand why most engineers here don’t seem to get this.

If you’re not listening to Ed Zitron you’d better start if you don’t want to get whiplash in the coming months.

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