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Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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Post by ahartmetz »

jeltz wrote: post #185
ahartmetz wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even aside from that, what are we doing centralizing FOSS project hosting on a closed source Microsoft platform?

It was much better than the closed source SourceForge which existed before it. A lot of small projects dont have the energy to self host. Plus for small projects the barrier of entry is an issue. I recently found a typo in an error message in Garage but since they run their own Forgejo instance and OpenID never really became a thing I never created a PR. It is first now with Codeberg there is a credible alternative.…

Well - my perspective is the KDE project, which has a team of capable admins who take care of hosting. The project has always been more or less self-hosted (I remember SUSE providing servers) and even provided hosting for at least one barely associated project, Valgrind. I think Valgrind bugs are still on KDE Bugzilla.

It's admittedly not really practical for most projects, but it could be for some large ones - Rust, for example.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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Post by c0balt »

troad wrote: post #186
ezoe wrote: post #152

I guess it's time to consider ditching GitHub. Everything that are purchased by Microsoft ware destined to be rotten.

What are some good alternatives for closed source codebases that people have been using and enjoying? I only ask because I already know of good alternatives for FOSS, but it's the private / work projects that keep me tethered to GH for now.

GitLab is quite good, the organizational features and CI is also mostly on par with GitHub. You can use gitlab.com, SaaS or self-host.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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Post by johnisgood »

DonHopkins wrote: post #47
synack wrote: post #11

Yet Sourceforge has been putting ads on open source projects for decades.

Wow, I haven't heard that name for decades.

Jeez, that makes me feel old, and I am "only" just barely in 30. :(

Remember https://web.archive.org/web/20050204100149/http://cia.navi.c... BTW?

For the uninitiated: https://web.archive.org/web/20050129022102/http://cia.navi.c.... :D Good times!

This takes me back. It is just one of those artifacts of early 2000s that was associated with open source hacker culture. It truly felt magical at the time.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

#204

Post by dismalaf »

troad wrote: post #186
ezoe wrote: post #152

I guess it's time to consider ditching GitHub. Everything that are purchased by Microsoft ware destined to be rotten.

What are some good alternatives for closed source codebases that people have been using and enjoying? I only ask because I already know of good alternatives for FOSS, but it's the private / work projects that keep me tethered to GH for now.

Gitlab.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

#205

Post by alsetmusic »

troad wrote: post #186
ezoe wrote: post #152

I guess it's time to consider ditching GitHub. Everything that are purchased by Microsoft ware destined to be rotten.

What are some good alternatives for closed source codebases that people have been using and enjoying? I only ask because I already know of good alternatives for FOSS, but it's the private / work projects that keep me tethered to GH for now.

Codeberg seems to have legs. License is different, best read it.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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Post by jeltz »

ahartmetz wrote: post #201
jeltz wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was much better than the closed source SourceForge which existed before it. A lot of small projects dont have the energy to self host. Plus for small projects the barrier of entry is an issue. I recently found a typo in an error message in Garage but since they run their own Forgejo instance and OpenID never really became a thing I never created a PR. It is first now with Codeberg there is a credible alternative.…

Well - my perspective is the KDE project, which has a team of capable admins who take care of hosting. The project has always been more or less self-hosted (I remember SUSE providing servers) and even provided hosting for at least one barely associated project, Valgrind. I think Valgrind bugs are still on KDE Bugzilla. It's admittedly not really practical for most projects, but it could be for some large ones - Rust,…

I mostly work on PostgreSQL which has always selfhosted but PostgreSQL is a big project, for smaller projects it is much less practical. Even for something decently large like Meson I think the barrier would have been too big.

But, yes, projects like Rust could have selfhosted if they had wanted to.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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Post by alsetmusic »

Animats wrote: post #3

Microsoft will probably try to sneak it back in later. They've done that with other intrusions. Migrating away from Github just increased in priority.

They only turn on features that users disabled every chance they get.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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Post by coffeefirst »

karel-3d wrote: post #124
yosamino wrote: post #4

Calling advertisements "product tips" as if everybody is too stupid to understand what that means. They created an amazing technology that oftentimes is indistinguishable from magic and then use it to deliver ads and - sorry about the tangent - kill people. This really is the quote of the century: > The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads What a waste.

They were not ads though. The companies did not pay for those, from what I can tell. Microsoft seemed to really thought they were being helpful here.

In media, we call that a House Ad.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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Post by [deleted] »

yosamino wrote: post #4

Calling advertisements "product tips" as if everybody is too stupid to understand what that means. They created an amazing technology that oftentimes is indistinguishable from magic and then use it to deliver ads and - sorry about the tangent - kill people. This really is the quote of the century: > The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads What a waste.

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Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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Post by hellcow »

troad wrote: post #186
ezoe wrote: post #152

I guess it's time to consider ditching GitHub. Everything that are purchased by Microsoft ware destined to be rotten.

What are some good alternatives for closed source codebases that people have been using and enjoying? I only ask because I already know of good alternatives for FOSS, but it's the private / work projects that keep me tethered to GH for now.

Sourcehut.

Uses the same email-based patch workflow as Linux. Takes an hour to learn, and they have helpful guides: https://git-send-email.io/. No JavaScript.

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