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Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by brailsafe »

haunter wrote: post #57

I usually use Linux and Windows (pretty much split 50/50) and tbh this is why I never could switch to Mac full time even though I've have had and still have several Macs at home. The full screen beahavior is weird. Is the dock should overlay every single window all the time? If not then why is the dock not hidden by default? If yes then full screen is actually "maximum size app window without overlaying the dock"? Wh…

Seems like it just depends what you're used to, change is frustrating and sometimes totally unnecessary.

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by cardanome »

jasonhemann wrote: post #18

I love that there are people who are observant enough to notice these kinds of things, a vanguard for those of us who are blithely unaware and protected due to their vigilance.

I wish I were less observant.

My neurodivergency makes me feel actual distress over those corners. I am not being dramatic. It sucks.

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by amarant »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #51
amarant wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Projectors are way easier on the eyes than monitors though. You're shining a bright light on a wall, which you are looking at. With a monitor you are shining a bright light at your face, while staring directly at the lightbulb!

Doesn't bouncing off the wall just effectively make the "backlight" dimmer? The light reflected off the wall is hitting your face versus the light from the screen hitting your face. It's still light regardless. If you're using a monitor in the dark the way you use a projector, you should turn the backlight down. If you're using it in a well lit room, the brighter backlight should have less of an effect.

In principle, it's the same as staring at the moon Vs staring at the sun.

The fact that it's bright outside when the sun is up might help, but it's nowhere near enough to compensate!

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by thatfrenchguy »

_jab wrote: post #9

Between the rounded corners that don't reach the edges of the viewport, and the behavior when opening a new app for the first time, it feels like Mac's UI is optimized around the assumption most users won't expand windows to fill the whole screen, but rather leave them half-sized somewhere in the middle. Does anyone actually do this? Especially for heavy-duty applications like my web browser and IDE, this has always…

That’s because you use the button to make them whole screen?

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by chongli »

ezst wrote: post #177
empressplay wrote: post #132

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You can double click on any part of the top title bar (that doesn't have buttons in it) for example in Calendar you can double click beside the magnifying glass in the top right and it will maximize the window.

I don't understand how we keep hearing so often here about Apple OSes being so amazingly simple, approachable and cleverly designed with a lot of attention paid to detail, while every practical productivity advice involves some undiscoverable trick, or combinations of tricks, that seems so arbitrary and obtuse. I don't like Mac, in large parts because of that. No amount of marketing and peer pressure will convince me…

Apple OSes being so amazingly simple, approachable and cleverly designed with a lot of attention paid to detail

That was the Mac in the 1990s. It was designed for, and highly usable with, a one-button mouse. It didn't have hidden context menus or obscure keyboard shortcuts. Everything was visible in the menu bar and discoverable. The Finder was spatially aware with a high degree of persistence that allowed you to develop muscle memory for where icons would appear onscreen every time you opened a folder.

There was almost nothing hidden or lurking in the background, unlike today (my modern Mac system has 500 running processes right now, despite having only 15 applications open). We've had decades of feature creep since the classic Mac OS, which has made modern Macs extremely hard to use (relatively speaking).

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

embedding-shape wrote: post #176
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't bouncing off the wall just effectively make the "backlight" dimmer? The light reflected off the wall is hitting your face versus the light from the screen hitting your face. It's still light regardless. If you're using a monitor in the dark the way you use a projector, you should turn the backlight down. If you're using it in a well lit room, the brighter backlight should have less of an effect.

> The light reflected off the wall is hitting your face versus the light from the screen hitting your face. It's still light regardless. It sounds to me you've never actually looked at a monitor display large swaths of white before, it's brighter than light hitting a wall for sure, even with the brightness down, extra so when the ambient lightning is dark too.

I've definitely seen large monitors that are unpleasantly bright in the dark, but I've also seen an overly bright projector that was similarly unpleasant. I genuinely don't understand why changing the backlight wouldn't fix everything. A projector's image isn't diffuse like a lightbulb, if it was you wouldn't see an image.

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by hedora »

al_borland wrote: post #78
_jab wrote: post #9

Between the rounded corners that don't reach the edges of the viewport, and the behavior when opening a new app for the first time, it feels like Mac's UI is optimized around the assumption most users won't expand windows to fill the whole screen, but rather leave them half-sized somewhere in the middle. Does anyone actually do this? Especially for heavy-duty applications like my web browser and IDE, this has always…

macOS only recently got an option to make windows fill the screen. For most of history what most people would assume is a maximize button (the green one) was actually a zoom button. It sized the window to what the OS thought was appropriate for the content (to the best of my knowledge and experience with it). Apple then made things go full screen, but in a special full screen mode, so macOS worked more like the iPad.…

Note that fullscreen breaks command tab. Create two safari windows (or FF, Chrome, doesn't matter - except that Apple shipped safari, so we'd expect that to be able to render a window to the screen correctly).

Full screen one. Switch to the other. Now, use just cmd-tab and cmd-` to get to the full screen safari window (cmd-` switches between windows in the same application, which is literally never the right thing, but I digress).

For what it's worth, the third party tool 'altTab' mostly fixes this.

Bonus MacOS UI bug: I had to exit altTab to confirm they still hadn't fixed cmd-`. When I re-opened it using cmd-space, finder defaulted to the version in ~/Downloads instead of /Applications, then read me the riot act about untrusted software trying to change accessibility settings.

One more thing: I'm still not using MacOS 26, so all my complaints are about the "last known good" release.

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by alpaca128 »

Spunkie wrote: post #196
Spunkie wrote: post #189

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Maybe this explains some of the bizarre questions I've gotten from mac designers. The other day I was explaining to one that their designs fixed width looks silly once it got up towards 4k resolutions. But the designers main concern was if people actually used full screen browsers on 4k monitors and if there was any point in thinking about the design at that resolution. There are plenty of times I enjoy have 2 browse…

And actually typing that all out just unlocked a bunch of memories about how many times I've been: 1. On a screen share support call with a mac user 2. Asked them to pull up a webpage 3. They pull up a super tiny ass browser window to the point I can't really see anything 4. I ask them to full screen the browser so we can actually read shit 5. The mac user just straight up panics or acts like like I've spoken an alie…

On Mac OS Settings is located in the menu named after the program, left of File and Edit. For example Firefox > Settings.

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by Brajeshwar »

mjcohen wrote: post #151
drivers99 wrote: post #104

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> I wish Mac had the same ability natively Hover over the green button in the top left of the window. I recently found out about that menu for moving a window between screens, which is also an option it has. (I also just found them in the Window menu if you prefer that. I dont; the options take an extra level of hovering to get to.)

Damn. Never knew that. TIL

I will wait for you to discover these Keyboard Shortcuts - Press the `fn + ^` (that globe key + control) and then try `c`, `f`, and all of the four arrow keys.
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