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Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by zulux »

CalRobert wrote: post #63
mikkupikku wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In America, a small number of people derive pleasure from being disruptive to everybody, and blasting music on public transit with captive audiences is a very "traditional" way of fucking with people and expressing your broad contempt for their society. I'd estimate that maybe one in five times you get on a city bus in America, you'll encounter somebody like this. Very rarely does anybody call them out or otherwise t…

Happens elsewhere too. Can be an issue in Dutch trains

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Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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mikkupikku wrote: post #34
pjmlp wrote: post #31

Is this really a thing?!? Blasting the others with unwanted noise. I never been in a flight, or train across Europe where passengers showed just lack of respect for the others. The only ones pumping anything loud, on trains or busses, usually get quickly pointed down by other passengers, personal or security. Ah, and then there are the rebellious kids or gangs, as the other exception, which usually don't take flights…

In America, a small number of people derive pleasure from being disruptive to everybody, and blasting music on public transit with captive audiences is a very "traditional" way of fucking with people and expressing your broad contempt for their society. I'd estimate that maybe one in five times you get on a city bus in America, you'll encounter somebody like this. Very rarely does anybody call them out or otherwise t…

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Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by INTPenis »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #142
INTPenis wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm behind this 100%. I got a SARS virus flying to Udon Thani in 2019. We were seated next to two thai guys who were so sick they could barely sit up straight. We offered them help and treats because they looked like they were about to vomit. Plane lands, next day I'm sick. I was laid up for 2 weeks with fever, the shits, and I had a weird spontaneous cough for over 1 month after I got better. I bet most of that plan…

The problem is there can he huge penalties for not flying when you booked. You might not be able to rebook your flight or hotel or days off so you're stuck either getting everyone sick or perhaps being out thousands of dollars or not going on vacation at all.

Then they should have containment suits on the plane. If they see someone THAT sick, stick em in the suit.

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by btreecat »

b3ing wrote: post #203

They tell people not to do it on busses but it still happens, typically people are more respectful at night but not always. However I never worry about terrorists on the bus, they would get jacked up fast

Blasting your phone at volumes louder than the ambient noise is social terrorism

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Post by unsupp0rted »

dalmo3 wrote: post #199

PSA: get an etymotic in ear phones, play some quiet music, and forget you're flying. Those things become your eardrums. https://etymotic.com/product/er2xr-earphones/

They're pretty good, but not great. Just passive noise cancelling.

My AirPods Pros block noise better actually, but I have after-market foam eartips on them.

Regardless, the problem is less speakerphone music and more shrill child voices and screams. No eartips can block those frequencies well it seems.

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Post by BenjiWiebe »

dataflow wrote: post #190
andy99 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure on planes this is more ignorance than malice. It’s self absorbed people that are too selfish to consider someone else might not want to hear what they’re watching, rather than some deliberate anti society thing. Regardless, no punishment is too harsh, this should be considered the equivalent of lighting up a cigarette on a plane.

> no punishment is too harsh, this should be considered the equivalent of lighting up a cigarette on a plane. Okay this is ridiculous. One is a fire hazard and the other is not. Do you really need the hyperbole here?

The lack of cigarettes on a plane isn't due to the fire hazard.

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

vel0city wrote: post #175
SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, Tourette’s then. Should we kick people off for Tourette’s? Your comment also presupposes two things: that flatulence is always involuntary and blasting music isn’t. Let’s say I have a form of Tourette’s that forces me to involuntarily blast noise and music and I have medical papers to prove it. Is it okay then? I would absolutely support it if you could demonstrate that those two things are actually true. My po…

Are you seriously making the argument blasting music or a movie or whatever is an involuntary bodily function?

Yes. Because I'm asking the question who decides what is involuntary or not. Who is it? It seems like there is a presupposition here, but who is defining that?

Coming back to the Tourette's example: let's say someone starts shouting cuss words and loudly annoying everyone else "involuntarily". Do they get kicked off the plane? Why or why not? Who decides that? Does the person have to present medical evidence that they have Tourette's to not get kicked off the plane? If so, can they also present medical evidence of a condition that causes them to spontaneously press play on their mobile devices with no headphones and would that be accepted?

I'm obviously not defending the behavior of the loud-music-on-plane-players, or advocating that everyone needs to smell everyone's farts. I'm pointing out that this is something that is arbitrary and weaponizable.

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Post by wanderingstan »

oidar wrote: post #143
wanderingstan wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My go-to technique has been to offer the offender a pair of headphones, saying something to insinuate that they must forgotten theirs or be too poor to afford them. Most of the time they say “oh I have headphones!” and then realize that they’ve outed themselves. (I stockpile the free headphones from gyms or airplanes, or get the $2 ones from AliExpress)

Bluetooth headphones too? This is actually a really good response though. Because the act of having a device blaring demonstrates contempt for everyone one around them. It's hard to act in a hateful way to someone who just offered you something for free.

Exactly. To refuse the “gift” is an explicit statement of “I know I could do this silently but I want to bother everyone around me.”

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by paradox460 »

lagniappe wrote: post #3
SilverElfin wrote: post #2

We need to also ban people taking calls on speaker in public places like cafes or trains.

Join the conversation, works every time.

They look at you like you're the rudest person in the world. It's quite the trip

I had one person say

>Excuse me, I was having a private conversation

At which point you say "on speakerphone with everyone else able to hear it?"

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