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Post by tgma »

spaghetdefects wrote: post #74
tgma wrote: post #51

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This was a religious war launched by Israel during Purim, a Jewish holiday celebrating the mass murder of Persians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purim

I don't see the relevance of history and mythology to the point I was making. I am suggesting that even within the Shia framework, if we were to take it at face value, the religious ruling that the GP mentioned is non-binding because they are allowed to lie out of expediency to life or existential threats to the Islamic establishment (Taqiyya); it won't count as a sin or hypocricy within their own framework, objectively.

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Post by magic_hamster »

ignoramous wrote: post #157
dragonelite wrote: post #151

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It's a message toward the west don't think you're safe further away. Iran is pushing the west out of west Asia. Time will tell what USIS and EU will do to combat this.

> Time will tell what USIS and EU will do to combat this. Diplomacy was working fine, per high-ranking diplomats: https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2026/03/18/americas-...

Anyone thinking they can talk their way into controlling Iran, a fundamentalist fanatic country with a very loud and visible doctrine literally calling to destroy the west, is delusional. The western "avoid conflict at all cost" approach is extremely detrimental.

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Post by [deleted] »

rayiner wrote: post #191
AnotherGoodName wrote: post #42

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> This seems to reveal previously-unknown range of Iranian ballistic missiles and, if true, could touch basically all of Europe True but they have also literally launched multiple orbital satellites from iran on iranian rockets. Eg. The Noor 2 spy satellite and before that the Noor 1 series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noor_2_(satellite) These are in orbit to this day. They regularly post images it takes of US milit…

The downplaying of Iran’s capabilities is a weird kind of racism IMHO. In the modern view, Iranians have been categorized as “brown” so people lump them together with Somalians and Afghans. But Iran is a technologically and politically sophisticated country. In terms of the Civ tech tree, it’s higher than any middle eastern country except Israel.

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Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by cardanome »

kortilla wrote: post #145
cardanome wrote: post #111

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Well China is still getting Iranian oil no problem. We in the West, well we are aiding the US in this war by allowing it to operate from military bases in our countries. We deserve it for looking the other way while Israel has been mass murdering Palestinians for more than two years now. At least Spain showed some guts. Of course it will also potentially cause suffering in the global south but that is on those that s…

How is China getting that oil without problem? Something like 90% of it when through Kharg island which is now rubble.

The attacks against Kharg Island were relatively limited as even the US wanted to avoid that level of escalation. The war has been painful but Iran could rebuild, if you destroyed Kharg island it would take decades to rebuild the Iranian economy, that would be a complete scorched earth point of no return.

Maybe there have been further attacks today that I missed but if true that would be an huge escalation.

My last information was that China has no problem getting oil but that was like two days ago.

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Post by jandrewrogers »

GordonS wrote: post #177
typon wrote: post #148

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I really is ridiculous, and somehow the number only gets bigger as the stories are told! Last I saw was "40,000 protestors murdered in just 24 hours!", or something very close to it. The US and Israel have been carpet bombing Iran for weeks now, blowing up hospitals, schools, power plants and residential buildings, yet the Iranian death toll is "only" around 1,500 so far. Yet we are to believe that Iran killed 40k of…

> The US and Israel have been carpet bombing Iran

No they haven't. The US started phasing out carpet bombing[0] half a century ago. You discredit yourself by making such trivially falsifiable assertions.

The US and Israel use precision strikes. It is why the ratio of targets per sortie is by far the highest ever recorded in a major conflict.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpet_bombing

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by ignoramous »

magic_hamster wrote: post #203
ignoramous wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Time will tell what USIS and EU will do to combat this. Diplomacy was working fine, per high-ranking diplomats: https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2026/03/18/americas-...

Anyone thinking they can talk their way into controlling Iran, a fundamentalist fanatic country with a very loud and visible doctrine literally calling to destroy the west, is delusional. The western "avoid conflict at all cost" approach is extremely detrimental.

> Anyone thinking they can talk their way into controlling Iran, a fundamentalist fanatic country with a very loud and visible doctrine literally calling to destroy the west, is delusional

Yeah, what's it about peoples of the third world that they're always fanatical, that they're always out to destroy the first world... https://theconversation.com/orientalism-edward-saids-groundb... / https://archive.vn/HoEk5

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Post by breppp »

isr wrote: post #196
throw310822 wrote: post #120

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Its a mystery how "the terrorists" have launched 1000's of missiles & drones, in 70+ (and counting) waves, across 3 weeks, spanning across the region, and yet they have ABJECTLY FAILED to: * hit any hospital * blow up any school * nor murder any journalists. Yet, despite this stunning lack of accuracy from ... "the terrorists", they have somehow managed to hit EVERYTHING ELSE they were aiming at. On the other hand, t…

Actually Iran has hit the Soroka hospital in Israel in the previous war and the Weizmann Institute, a research university

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Post by cardanome »

watwut wrote: post #159
cardanome wrote: post #68

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Many people that protested against the government in January are now marching in support of the Islamic Republic and demand that the imperialists are punished. Most of them have protested for economic reasons, they don't want to see their country destroyed and their children murdered by bombs. Iran is more united than ever because of the imperialist war. That is what you get when you turn state leaders into martyrs.

That sounds made up. Marches largely stopped after bombings, no one marches for IRGC - not even supporters. And there is no way for anyone to know what Iranians actually think now. No one does the polls there now.

There is massive video evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TOcnVe86Vo

There are massive protests in favor of the Republic every day. You can not deny the evidence.

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Post by logicchains »

rayiner wrote: post #191
AnotherGoodName wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This seems to reveal previously-unknown range of Iranian ballistic missiles and, if true, could touch basically all of Europe True but they have also literally launched multiple orbital satellites from iran on iranian rockets. Eg. The Noor 2 spy satellite and before that the Noor 1 series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noor_2_(satellite) These are in orbit to this day. They regularly post images it takes of US milit…

The downplaying of Iran’s capabilities is a weird kind of racism IMHO. In the modern view, Iranians have been categorized as “brown” so people lump them together with Somalians and Afghans. But Iran is a technologically and politically sophisticated country. In terms of the Civ tech tree, it’s higher than any middle eastern country except Israel.

>Iranians have been categorized as “brown” so people lump them together with Somalians and Afghans.

Even from a racist perspective that's completely wrong; Iranians are white, the name "Iran" literally means "Land of the Aryans".

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