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Re: TUI Studio – visual terminal UI design tool

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Post by wolvoleo »

coldpie wrote: post #69
wolvoleo wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I love that about X. I remember in the 90s when I first figured that out. I was logged in from a university workstation into my home computer with SSH and I launched my mail client or something and I thought doh, stupid that will only popup locally. Then colour my suprise when it popped up on my screen right there. Slow as molasses but still. Wow. Magic. It's a shame Wayland dropped this. Yes I know there's wayp…

> It's a shame Wayland dropped this. It... really isn't. Like you said, remote X was barely usable even over an entirely local network. Most applications these days are also not designed for it, using loads of bitmap graphics instead of efficient, low-level primitives. So you end up being just one tiny step away from simply streaming a video of your windows. We have better tools for doing things remotely these days,…

It is, there were tools like NX that made it entirely usable even latencywise. And these days we're really going more and more to remote computing.

In the time when wayland was invented it made sense because we did everything purely local. But now it's as outdated as X11 was in 2010.

And yes I still use it a lot. It works well. Networks have become a lot better and even most cloud compute I use is geographically nearby.

What made it slow back then was that I only had a 128kbit uplink at home. And the uni had 2 mbit for the whole computer science building :)

Re: TUI Studio – visual terminal UI design tool

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Post by elxr »

tracker1 wrote: post #187
elxr wrote: post #117

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Exactly, don't know why people are acting like actually makes TUIs, it's just a rough mockup of a TUI for now, with a convoluted figma-like UI. I guess the headline and website was enough to get all these upvotes. Quite disappointing as someone in the early stages of making a TUI tutorial myself.

I've been juggling some BBS related projects myself that involve some TUI work over raw and web sockets that I've been working on... It's definitely a fascinating space and there's been a lot of relatively recent activity in the space.

> and there's been a lot of relatively recent activity in the space.

100 percent agree. I personally love what the openTUI folks have been up to. As weird as this might be to say, we're still in the early, early stage of TUI adoption.

Re: TUI Studio – visual terminal UI design tool

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Post by dymk »

majkinetor wrote: post #192
boca_honey wrote: post #175

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Ignore the haters, sure. But don't ignore the well argumented criticism that you're getting from an overwhelming majority of your peers, as it's happening right now. >can't wait to see where it goes! Fall into this toxic positivity nonsense at your own peril.

Toxic positivity? At your own peril? OMFG. Let's imagine one do. What do you think can actually happen that is so negative? Toxic TUI will hunt you in dreams?

It doesn’t even exist, you’re getting excited for a hallucination.

Re: TUI Studio – visual terminal UI design tool

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Post by wolvoleo »

tracker1 wrote: post #194
duskdozer wrote: post #105

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Like what? X forwarding has pretty much always been the thing most likely to work for me and I haven't been able to find any equivalent.

IIRC, it's not that secure though.. I'm really surprised people didn't do more things like send animated skulls to people's desktops.

Xauth fixed that way back in '93. All you have to do is use -Y not -X with SSH.

Re: TUI Studio – visual terminal UI design tool

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Post by frou_dh »

mikkupikku wrote: post #45
_pdp_ wrote: post #43

Am I the only one who thinks the recent TUI explosion is absolutely not necessary? I mean yes, code editor are great for this but a lot of the TUIs I see are so slow it begs the question why they exist to begin. CLIs are supposed to be remixable and scriptable. I think a better architecture would be to generally keep CLIs work like CLIs and have separate processes that add terminal rendering functionalities for those…

Of course it's not necessary, it's a fashion. Choosing to make a TUI instead of a GUI is a fashion statement, it signals aesthetic alignment with nerdy shit and says the program isn't meant for common proles. There's pretty much nothing a TUI can do that a GUI can't do, while the opposite is very much not the case.

See also all the programmer blogs that feel the need to use a monospaced font for prose, to signal that they're a programmer.

Re: TUI Studio – visual terminal UI design tool

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Post by BoredomIsFun »

eterps wrote: post #16

This is nonsensical, there is nothing textual about the UIs being shown here. It doesn't stop being a GUI if you have a 1:1 representation of the concept within character cells. The UX actually matters, and TUIs are generally built for effectiveness and power (lazygit being an excellent example). But once you start adding mouse clickable tabs, buttons, checkboxes etc. you left the UX for TUIs behind and applied the U…

> But once you start adding mouse clickable tabs, buttons, checkboxes etc. you left the UX for TUIs behind and applied the UX expected for GUIs, it has become a GUI larping as a TUI.

TIL that VIM is not cease being TUI the moment I type :set mouse=a.

Hot taking, LARPing and teenage angst (caused by generational gap with those has been using TUI since 1980s) is on your side.

Re: TUI Studio – visual terminal UI design tool

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Post by Myrmornis »

kees99 wrote: post #185
Myrmornis wrote: post #181

TUIs built today should be usable by AI agents. I'm not sure exactly what it looks like but I'm imagining that every UI view has an associated CLI command that can yield precisely that view. Maybe like formally structured breadcrumbs, or maybe like Emacs "keyboard macros".

Agents excel at using CLI tools with well-written "--help". So maybe consider that instead of TUI.

Yes, they do, but the premise in my comment (and this discussion) is that a TUI is being written today.

Re: TUI Studio – visual terminal UI design tool

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Post by dymk »

cestith wrote: post #100
jbstack wrote: post #26

Interesting idea, but: > Design once, generate production-ready code for your framework of choice. Switch targets without touching your design. Alpha notice: Code export is not functional yet. We're actively working on it — check back soon. In other words, it isn't at all usable right now. You can't produce a TUI with it, not even a limited one.

You can still design the layout. That’s useful, but not nearly as useful as they are planning.

Why do you believe anything the site claims? It might all be hallucinations anyways, and others report not even being able to open the app.
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