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Indeed I am.
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Sex discrimination is about equality employment and housing rights. Not about who you have to be friends with.
Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US
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Sex discrimination is about equality employment and housing rights. Not about who you have to be friends with.
All I'm hearing is carve-outs and exceptions. "But when I do it, it's ok."
If you're excluding people based on sex/gender it's discrimination. We either care about sex discrimination everywhere, or we don't care about it anywhere.
Everywhere includes public and private life.
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Sex discrimination is about equality employment and housing rights. Not about who you have to be friends with.
All I'm hearing is carve-outs and exceptions. "But when I do it, it's ok." If you're excluding people based on sex/gender it's discrimination. We either care about sex discrimination everywhere, or we don't care about it anywhere. Everywhere includes public and private life.
All I’m hearing is bad-faith nonsense built on intentionally ignoring the concept of civil rights.
Why go on the internet and do this? Honestly. You know that your line of argumentation doesn’t even remotely care about being serious, yet you make it anyway. Why? To waste my time?
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You could put up a divider separating the drivers from the passengers... like in a taxi
A divider's not gonna do anything. The threat of being in someone else's car is that they can take you anywhere, keep driving you around, harass and demand things from you. It's a position of trust. Not the same kind of trust as an airline pilot and their passengers, but there's still a large imbalance.
Aand have your address. The assault doesn’t need to happen at the moment if the ride.
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#205Unfortunately necessary. Essentially every girl I know has had at least one bad experience with a creepy uber driver. These are people that are entering their address and often their workplace into the app. It's a big reason why a lot of my friends are picking Waymos instead.
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sex discrimination is about equality employment and housing rights. Not about who you have to be friends with.
All I'm hearing is carve-outs and exceptions. "But when I do it, it's ok." If you're excluding people based on sex/gender it's discrimination. We either care about sex discrimination everywhere, or we don't care about it anywhere. Everywhere includes public and private life.
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#207Unfortunately necessary. Essentially every girl I know has had at least one bad experience with a creepy uber driver. These are people that are entering their address and often their workplace into the app. It's a big reason why a lot of my friends are picking Waymos instead.
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Of course, you must be lambasted for daring to point out the hypocrisy that this is the very definition of sexual discrimination, or if you were to point out how upset those people would likely be if the roles were reversed and men were allowed to deny women drivers simply because they feel women drivers are less safe at driving.
I would think holding the company accountable for creating the unsafe environment, rather than discrimination, would be the thing people want but…seems not.
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#208While I‘m glad that there’s an immediate safe option for women riders, in the longer term this lets Uber off the hook when they should be taking responsibility for their drivers who are functionally employees despite Uber insisting otherwise. It’s worth noting that the old school taxi companies did not have this problem of rampant sexual assault committed by their drivers. Why? Because they performed background checks before hire. I know that at least in Chicago it was very difficult to get licensed as a taxi driver. The problem with Uber is that they make it very very easy for shady individuals to be drivers, then act like they have no control over who’s driving.
Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US
#209While I‘m glad that there’s an immediate safe option for women riders, in the longer term this lets Uber off the hook when they should be taking responsibility for their drivers who are functionally employees despite Uber insisting otherwise. It’s worth noting that the old school taxi companies did not have this problem of rampant sexual assault committed by their drivers. Why? Because they performed background check…
Long term it will be Waymo, and there won't need to be issues anymore because no human drivers.
> It’s worth noting that the old school taxi companies did not have this problem of rampant sexual assault committed by their drivers.
Wait what? Did you not read a newspaper in the 80s and 90s? If you do a google search today for "taxi driver" and "sexual assault" you will not come up with nothing.
> Why? Because they performed background checks before hire.
99.9% of the taxi drivers in the US have and have always been independent contractors. Uber does background checks on all drivers in the US. A family member applied and was rejected because of a marijuana possession conviction when she was much younger in a state far far away from where she lives now.
https://www.uber.com/us/en/ride/safety/driver-screening/ (this is much more screening that I've seen elsewhere, but maybe you think they are cutting corners?)