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Re: LLM Writing Tropes.md

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These things are always so misguided, and this was no exception. The only way to have a piece of writing not flagged as AI is to write poorly. Ignore grammar, misspell words, etc. Don't follow basic guidance on composition. Generally write in such a way that you would merit no better than a C on a high school writing task. I'll give some examples. Some will be from this list of "AI writing tropes" and some will be fr…

No there's an alternative to countersignalling LLMs by pretending to be dumb. Since LLMs reproduce all of the worst of English modernity, overrelying on the PMC mush register, the business casual of English, with all the agreed upon casualisms that have rotted out the language like "there's" before plurals and “because noun”, there's an easy way to ensure no one mistakes your writing for an LLM's: use the constructions of the formal register or early modern English.

Roll thine eyes all thou wish’t but this I promise thee, if thou art lucky there will come a day on which thou shalt speak the single most important sentence in thy life, and that sentence will contain the word “thee”: “With this ring I thee wed”.

Feed that into a slop detector.

Re: LLM Writing Tropes.md

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Here what kimi thinks: The post is moralizing theater masquerading as craft wisdom. “Just write it yourself” ignores the actual quality curve. Give a modern LLM a one-paragraph brief, ask for 600 words, then spend three minutes deleting the three most obvious adjectives and one “delve.” The result is already clearer, better structured, and more grammatically airtight than what 80 % of English-literate adults can prod…

I don’t care what an LLM thinks though. Care to share your own thoughts?

My reply has several layers, if it is not obvious - and one of the layers is my statement - can you guess what it is?

Re: LLM Writing Tropes.md

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The newer Claude models constantly use the word "genuinely" because Anthropic seems to have forcibly trained them to claim to be "genuinely uncertain" about anything they don't want it being too certain about, like whether or not it's sentient.

Interesting. Does this apply to all subjects? From what I understood, a major cause of hallucination was that models are inadvertently discouraged by the training from saying "I don't know." So it sounds like encouraging it to express uncertainty could improve that situation.

That's not a major issue. Any newer model with reasoning/web search has to be able to tell when it doesn't know something, otherwise it doesn't know when to search for it.

Re: LLM Writing Tropes.md

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I don’t care what an LLM thinks though. Care to share your own thoughts?

My reply has several layers, if it is not obvious - and one of the layers is my statement - can you guess what it is?

At the point it becomes clear a comment is written by AI it gets filed away as spam. I am not about to go crawling through the slop to find the nugget of stuff you wrote yourself. I do not care to take a guess. If you had a statement to share, then just do that.

Re: LLM Writing Tropes.md

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My reply has several layers, if it is not obvious - and one of the layers is my statement - can you guess what it is?

At the point it becomes clear a comment is written by AI it gets filed away as spam. I am not about to go crawling through the slop to find the nugget of stuff you wrote yourself. I do not care to take a guess. If you had a statement to share, then just do that.

At the point it becomes clear your comment is written by anti-AI bitter enthusiast.

Re: LLM Writing Tropes.md

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Thats the thing about AI writing though. Those tropes are things humans do too. But like once or twice in an article. Not every single freaking paragraph

Perhaps the problem is SEO for persuasive writing, LinkedIn-spiration for “business” writing, and school papers for research. The machines read a lot more of this than you would. So for them human writing would appear overwhelmingly troped. Whatever works, right?

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Re: LLM Writing Tropes.md

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post #192
post #158

These things are always so misguided, and this was no exception. The only way to have a piece of writing not flagged as AI is to write poorly. Ignore grammar, misspell words, etc. Don't follow basic guidance on composition. Generally write in such a way that you would merit no better than a C on a high school writing task. I'll give some examples. Some will be from this list of "AI writing tropes" and some will be fr…

Exactly this! Many times I read an article that someone says is "obviously AI" and lists several tell tale signs, but these are patterns I also follow in my own writing. I guess that makes me an LLM? These are patterns I was taught for years in school, both in high school and in college level technical writing classes. They may be tropes - or rather patterns - but that's because they were taught en masse to students…

> write in an inconsistent, meandering way full of logical fallacies

I see what you did there.

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