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Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Post by atombender »

jacquesm wrote: post #164
anonym00se1 wrote: post #141

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Sorry to hear this. I similarly woke up one day with bi-lateral tinnitus at about an 8/10 in loudness. Thought I was going to lose my mind. After about 9 days one morning the right ear completely resolved and the left ear was at about a 5/10. Very, very, very long story short, I did a ton of digging and experimenting and realized it was related to a neck injury (a lot of people with whiplash have short-long term tinn…

Now that is interesting, thank you for giving me a new angle to look into. Never thought that there might be a relationship with other things other than just my ears. I know I can make it instantly worse by clenching my jaw, so that should have been a hint already.

When you say clench, do you mean clench the muscles (i.e. as if biting down), or do you mean jutting your jaw forward?

There is a well known phenomenon among people with (at least some types of) tinnitus that moving the jaw forward increases the sound, but that this also makes the tinnitus go away for a bit. The way my ENT explained it, it has to do with how your brain calibrates sound. Pushing the jaw forward makes the sound louder, which also causes your brain to adjust your hearing to be less sensitive. Or something like this.

With some types of tinnitus, there is a specific connection to the temporomandibular joint. My understanding is that the causes tinnitus are poorly understood, however. There are many hypotheses, but little solid evidence.

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Post by ajb »

theshrike79 wrote: post #193
newt_slowly wrote: post #66

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My dad had tinnitus and it bothered him relentlessly. He was constantly following potential new treatments, talking to doctors about it, etc. I have it too. I've taken the approach of truly accepting it: "I will hear these sounds the rest of my life, and I'm truly okay with that". As a result it doesn't give me anxiety or bother me, and I find it helps it fade into the background. The more you focus on it (and let it…

My ear doctor suggested the myNoise app[0] for me, specifically the Neuromodulator and Brown noise sounds. The Neuromodulator[1] is a random-ish noise field that ... confuses? the brain after a while and lets you forget the tinnitus - at lest temporarily. The noise isn't "real" it's the brain generating it due to faulty signals, so giving it a bunch of noise helps somehow. Brown noise[2] was specifically suggested fo…

I used to use brown noise, but I find that rain/ thunderstorm sounds are better. It's a noise that your brain is used to ignoring, and other sounds blend into it - even if they are almost as loud -while with the more homogeneous brown and white noise, it has to be louder than the sounds it's trying to mask.

Having said that, I'm not sure how well it would do for high pitched tinnitus.

Edited to add - now listened to the neuro modulator, nice one.

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Post by Aeglaecia »

dusted wrote: post #191

I've long suspected that (at least my own) tinnitus was a neurological phenomenon, seeing how it's always been with me at various "levels of presence", from imperceptible to so loud I can't hear anything else, I've always felt it as an "inner sound".. Had multiple hearing tests, and nothing in particular showed up. It's also weird because it changes somewhat in frequency, both down to frequencies my 40 year old ears…

out of all the people in this thread, you seem the most likely candidate to appreciate the following - tinnitus symptoms are often conflated with hearing sensitivity. if you can see auras, then id say your tinnitus symptoms arent indicative of tinnitus. search up brain wave frequencies and look at images. id wager you are hearing yourself, especially during changes of frequency. as well, just prior to sleep, you might hear a spike - thats the brain commencing the sleep mode algorithm (no wonder tinnitus wrecks sleep, affected individuals would struggle at synchronizing both hemispheres with the sleep algorithm when an involved sensor is malfunctioning)

seperately ... its clear that you recognise the incompatibility between sensitive individuals and a society designed to place the populace into constant fight or flight. youre still showing signs of blaming yourself. literally nobody is going to understand you (especially not doctors) and the sooner you accept this, the sooner you will free up a lot of trapped energy. id stop taking the stimulants regularly man ... even without their effect, barely anybody is going to understand your words, and the number of people who will appreciate your words is reduced when they are conveyed via essays (honestly i cant find the strength to read them properly) ... in general your expression has reminded me of the message behind the lateralus chorus

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Post by pixelready »

saltcured wrote: post #199
kylecazar wrote: post #95

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60 bps is a fine HR, if you are implying it isn't Edit: WHOOPSIE DAISY

Yeah, 60hz isn't a pulse, it's a bass hum. It means you are a robot operating in the US and you have a poorly filtered power supply.

I’ve been meaning to get my power supply checked, but my robo-kid needs a memory upgrade and have you _seen_ RAM prices lately.

On the plus side, plenty of employment opportunities in the US these days. They’re offering us all the former meatbag jobs :)

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Post by anonym00se1 »

theshrike79 wrote: post #192
anonym00se1 wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry to hear this. I similarly woke up one day with bi-lateral tinnitus at about an 8/10 in loudness. Thought I was going to lose my mind. After about 9 days one morning the right ear completely resolved and the left ear was at about a 5/10. Very, very, very long story short, I did a ton of digging and experimenting and realized it was related to a neck injury (a lot of people with whiplash have short-long term tinn…

Can confirm. I've had like 2/10 tinnitus for all my life, can't remember the last time I heard "silence". Got a C5/C6 hernia a year ago, about 6 months after that MASSIVE tinnitus in my right ear and clear increase in the left. Like "can't hear shit" levels of noise. Eventually I figured out that doing a basic shoulder workout + going on a walk eased it off in a few hours. A month ago, due to a doctor's suggestion, I…

If you have one in your area, I'd recommend seeing a PT that has their CFMT from IPA. It's a pretty specific form of PT that looks for deeper root causes of issues and that's the PT that was finally able to help me figure out and resolve mine.

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Post by sebmellen »

rapnie wrote: post #165
carlesfe wrote: post #81

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I do hear my heartbeat from my left ear. The ear doctor said that the ear can be sensitive to the blood flowing from nearby arteries, and that there's nothing to do. Stress affects the heartbeat volume. I just got used to it, but it can be annoying sometimes, especially when you're trying to enjoy the silence. The doctor also told me that it's not an ear problem, but rather a brain problem. The brain is supposed to f…

I have this also in the left ear for about a year or so. I self-diagnosed it as eustachian tube related [0] and should really see a doctor, but I also got pretty used to it by now. Only now and then it gets a bit annoying when the sound become more 'whooshing' than 'a clock ticking in the room'. In my right ear I have another sound regularly, that I went to the doctor for, and she immediately said "Oh, tinnitus, noth…

Huh. The more you learn. Thanks, I think I may have this too.

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Post by cryptonector »

epolanski wrote: post #5

I've got tinnitus, 38 male. Got it randomly one day this summer. It's impossible to describe how depressing it is to hear a sound non stop in your ears, night and day, wherever I go or whatever I do, it just never stops. The brain started filtering it out a bit after months, but it's always there and you're often reminded of it when you're in a slightly more silent environment. There are days where it becomes especia…

Eventually you stop hearing it unless someone mentions it.

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Post by nolanl »

epolanski wrote: post #5

I've got tinnitus, 38 male. Got it randomly one day this summer. It's impossible to describe how depressing it is to hear a sound non stop in your ears, night and day, wherever I go or whatever I do, it just never stops. The brain started filtering it out a bit after months, but it's always there and you're often reminded of it when you're in a slightly more silent environment. There are days where it becomes especia…

I've had tinnitus for almost a decade now. It gets better.

The first six months were hell because I kept focusing on how awful it was. Eventually you stop noticing it. It just becomes part of the background – like how the sky is blue, grass is green, etc.

I strongly recommend reading "Living with Tinnitus" by Laura Cole. Tinnitus is a very poorly-understood condition, but hearing about the experiences of others helps a lot. I hope you feel better soon. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/37707931-living-with-tin...

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Post by nolanl »

jarnagin wrote: post #24
epolanski wrote: post #5

I've got tinnitus, 38 male. Got it randomly one day this summer. It's impossible to describe how depressing it is to hear a sound non stop in your ears, night and day, wherever I go or whatever I do, it just never stops. The brain started filtering it out a bit after months, but it's always there and you're often reminded of it when you're in a slightly more silent environment. There are days where it becomes especia…

I got it about ten years ago and it drove me absolutely insane for a few months until I just accepted that I would have it. Then a weird thing happened: my brain stopped paying attention to it. Now I mostly only hear it when I think to myself, “do I still have tinnitus?” and try to listen for it. It’s still there, I just don’t care anymore. I had no idea that even what you hear can be such a subjective experience unt…

This is 100% my experience. Like, reading this thread right now, I notice the ringing in my ears. But otherwise I go months without thinking about it.

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Post by cryptonector »

harywilke wrote: post #132
the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #8

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This way: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4411996/

I kinda get it now, it's more of a way of studying induced deafness at certain frequencies that might be similar to the effect of tinnitus. If your tinnitus is at say 13khz, and someone turns on a sound at that frequency, you don't react to it because your mind is effectively masking it. I once played my tinnitus tone from this site https://www.szynalski.com/tone-generator/ for my partner, when i turned it off i had…

Hey, I know my tinnitus frequency now!
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