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Re: Plasma Bigscreen – 10-foot interface for KDE plasma

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There’s a reason GNOME is the default for most of the major distributions.

I've had twice the issues with GNOME as I have with KDE or Cinnamon I think it all really depends on the wants and workflows of the user

Obviously. Now think of the wants and workflows of your average user and is starts to make sense.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen – 10-foot interface for KDE plasma

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Yes! KDE is the only thing in the Linux world that legitimately looks better than the big competitors. Not always, and not all the time; programs that are really focused on design are still a cut above, but I truly believe that KDE looks (and feels!) better than macOS I don't understand why there aren't more folks like us shouting it from the rooftops. It's almost bizarre how good it looks.

I’m curious about which distros are working well with Plasma, as I had some trouble with stability in the past. I have the feeling Plasma works better with rolling release.

Plasma is the desktop-mode interface for the Steam Deck SteamOS, which is the only way I use it. I'm usually a Gnome person, as I'm one of the people Gnome just "clicks" for, despite all its issues, but I've been really enjoying using the Steam Deck as a mini computer and Plasma has been quite stable and solid for that. Did some minor customizing, and no issues at all so far!

Re: Plasma Bigscreen – 10-foot interface for KDE plasma

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Here’s an example: https://imgur.com/a/konsole-vs-ghostty-tR4Otmy Konsole on left, ghostty (which is gtk) on right. The latter has at least 3 additional lines visible outputting the same command. The giant copy paste buttons, tab bar which wastes a ton of space, are typical of kde apps. The klutter isn’t just visually annoying it makes the apps less useful.

Honestly this is the only complaint I agree with. KDE plasma desktop and its configurability looks and feels great... but all their in house actual windowed applications like Konsole and Kate are mediocre at best. All that duplicated effort seems wasteful.

It's honestly just Konsole. Kate is very good, you can legitimately use it as a vscode replacement if you want. Dolphin is also the best file manager and it's not even close.

And then kmail... kmail is bad.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen – 10-foot interface for KDE plasma

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I'd have to disagree with you on that one. I recently migrated to Fedora from Windows 11, which gave me the chance to try Plasma, GNOME, and a couple other desktops. Plasma is exactly what I don't want in a DE. It’s extremely configurable, but also overwhelming, and I don’t think that’s something the average user would feel comfortable navigating. I ended up choosing GNOME. It feels visually cohesive, and the design…

I couldn't disagree more. I have found KDE excellent and intuitive from the get go without much customization. To me GNOME is very primitive in comparison and ugly too. KDE is the DE that made shed the bias again linux UIs as having that crummy look that set them apart from commercial desktops. Sure it has issues (which mostly crop up when you are doing deep customization) but for the basics I don't even think any ot…

I won’t disagree with you, KDE is certainly usable from a clean install. But calling GNOME primitive in comparison feels off to me. It was actually KDE’s applets and overall fit and finish that pushed me toward GNOME.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen – 10-foot interface for KDE plasma

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I couldn't disagree more. I have found KDE excellent and intuitive from the get go without much customization. To me GNOME is very primitive in comparison and ugly too. KDE is the DE that made shed the bias again linux UIs as having that crummy look that set them apart from commercial desktops. Sure it has issues (which mostly crop up when you are doing deep customization) but for the basics I don't even think any ot…

Never expected someone to call GNOME straight up ugly. IMO it's currently the most stylish DE out there by far (comparing to the default look of other DEs). Opinions, huh.

GNOME is stylish, but what really sells it for me is that the apps match the aesthetic and feel cohesive.

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Except that's exactly my point. You come to that DE, you don't want to modify and optimize every single nook and cranny. I mean sure, some do, but this is a vast minority. If Linux is to become truly popular desktop, it needs DEs like Gnome, aiming at those who are just fine with all the defaults curated for them.

> If Linux is to become truly popular desktop, it needs DEs like Gnome Linux has a DE like GNOME. How many DEs like GNOME does it need?

Yeah, and more DEs like GNOME will just take devs away from GNOME, and GNOME will regress. There aren't tons of avilable open-source devs who have the skill necessary to create a DE.

There's a lot of "we need this" "we need that" in the open-source world. But when you look at all the limitations objectively, we've already reached the highest point we can achieve.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen – 10-foot interface for KDE plasma

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This is easy, don't connect your TV to the Internet and use it as a monitor for a mini PC running Plasma Bigscreen.

If enough people do this, new TVs will stop working without an internet connection.

If enough people do this, and refuse to buy TVs that do not work without an Internet connection, manufacturers will get the message and not make such TVs.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen – 10-foot interface for KDE plasma

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post #61

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This is easy, don't connect your TV to the Internet and use it as a monitor for a mini PC running Plasma Bigscreen.

> don't connect your TV to the Internet 5G fixes this

Don't buy such a TV, or mod it by removing the cellular modem. Same problem with cars, but generally quite easily solved.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen – 10-foot interface for KDE plasma

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post #137

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Yes! KDE is the only thing in the Linux world that legitimately looks better than the big competitors. Not always, and not all the time; programs that are really focused on design are still a cut above, but I truly believe that KDE looks (and feels!) better than macOS I don't understand why there aren't more folks like us shouting it from the rooftops. It's almost bizarre how good it looks.

I’m curious about which distros are working well with Plasma, as I had some trouble with stability in the past. I have the feeling Plasma works better with rolling release.

Yeah, Gnome consolidates feature changes into major releases every six months, so it aligns well with fixed release distros like Ubuntu and Fedora that have release cycles that are aligned with Gnome's.

KDE drops a new point release with new features ~ every four months, and has a more flexible release schedule, so it is just to just get the changes when they are released.

I'm currently running KDE on NixOS unstable which is great, but if I weren't doing that I'd still be on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed.

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