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Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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This was one of the very few advantages of moving from Linux => MacOS, that at least most of the software was beautiful and consistent by default. I'm saddened to see that this is not true anymore. Been holding the Tahoe upgrade, and might just keep my macbook air m1 much longer than originally intended because of this.

I hear KDE Plasma is nice this time of year. Computers should adapt to fit the user, not the other way around.

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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Just get Raycast for what you mentioned, + much better (the bar is really low tbf) search

Why would I use Raycast when Spotlight has those features built in, and unlike Raycast can directly call Shortcuts?

Because apparently the search function works better mainly, otherwise I haven't tried the new Spotlight yet (I'm not upgrading to Tahoe)

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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> What is godawful about it? I'm specifically commenting on their UX decisions, and in that respect literally everything. Tahoe, like every major upgrade, is iterative. Very few things that bowl a person over. Somethings are good, some things are "meh". But Liquid Glass is an abomination.

"Literally everything" Can you give some examples? "Inconsistent corner radius" isn't UX, it's UI. It affects nothing about the experience.

It impacts the experience when you try to resise a window and can't find the corner lol

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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This was one of the very few advantages of moving from Linux => MacOS, that at least most of the software was beautiful and consistent by default. I'm saddened to see that this is not true anymore. Been holding the Tahoe upgrade, and might just keep my macbook air m1 much longer than originally intended because of this.

Modern Gnome on Fedora feels like MacOS in a good way. Consistent design

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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There are people who have OCD and can’t help but seeing these things. It’s great for coding and seeing minor changes but its shit for real life - trust me. The number of times auto update of some app has caused the thought process “but that wasn’t like that yesterday… or was it… hm… oh it was an update”. Just minor things, small mostly unnoticeable if don’t have an “eye for details”.

That’s not OCD, it’s just paying attention to detail.

True, it's not OCD but in combination with OCD you can get into strange thought loops.

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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> Firstly, alt-tab I assume you mean cmd-tab. >doesn’t consider windows, it considers apps. So if you have multiple browser windows or word windows open, you can’t alt-tab between them. It’s totally confusing. You use cmd-tilde to switch between windows. >So I install an app just to get the normal alt-tab behavior of other OSs, to alt-tab between windows (mine is called alt-tab, and it’s a bit buggy and slow, I think…

I am mildly shocked after almost two decades of Mac use I never came across cmd+tilde thanks a lot!

It doesn’t go to recently used, it CYCLES through the windows.to get to most recent used, you need to cycle through all the windows of the app. Who came up with that!?

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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I wish too but they can't just back up, that would be a very bad sign for investors.

They'll just come up with round displays. Like on PDP-1.

finally, we can run SPACEWAR on macOS as it was always intended to be run.

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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What I find confusing and unhelpful is how The Apple OS deals with windows. Say if you have 4 safari windows, 3 excel windows, 5 window word documents and a bunch of terminals spread across a bunch of desktops. To me, I have clearly conceptionalized different work streams into desktops. Apple doesn’t understand and respect that. Firstly, alt-tab doesn’t consider windows, it considers apps. So if you have multiple bro…

> Firstly, alt-tab I assume you mean cmd-tab. >doesn’t consider windows, it considers apps. So if you have multiple browser windows or word windows open, you can’t alt-tab between them. It’s totally confusing. You use cmd-tilde to switch between windows. >So I install an app just to get the normal alt-tab behavior of other OSs, to alt-tab between windows (mine is called alt-tab, and it’s a bit buggy and slow, I think…

> You use cmd-tilde to switch between windows.

the approach is still pretty different in macOS compared to most other WM behaviors, namely: cmd-tilde cycles windows within the currently-open application, and cmd-tab cylces through applications. in most other environments, alt-tab will cycle windows across all open applications (and win-tab does something like cmd-tab on macOS but somehow horribly).

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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> seemingly bright idea i disagree about that one. im not a UX expert by any means but my first impression at WWDC seeing liquid glass was "holy shit, they pulled that off? i know apple would never compromise on legibility, so... how? there are so many situations where this won't work, and they can't exactly control the content that the buttons are overlaid on top of" cue my confusion when it was exactly that: an obv…

... liquid glass isn't very liquid anymore. it's frosted. is an important point. Liquid Glass does not come across as "a bold design idea which is slightly flawed" but rather something which failed so bad when they tried it that they dialed the intensity back to the point where it doesn't make a statement anymore. So it looks like they hired an intern to randomly add anti-antialiasing here and there for no good reaso…

If they had simply put the clear glass on top of a heavily frosted shelf, maintaining a clear divide between content and control and making sure the clear glass was never directly on content, we would be discussing the ways to improve the design instead of everybody's dismissal of the whole thing.

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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I suppose that's subjective, because to me it looks distracting and tacky. I want the window chrome to be present, opinionated, yet consistent and plain. This is one of the many Tahoe-isms that violates the latter two. It's visual noise that detracts from one of the most basic utilities of the UI, which is to simply hold my applications in a regular, cohesive, predictable manner. Maybe it shouldn't irritate me, but i…

This 100%. I _like_ new features and new UX when it enhances things or makes them easier to work with. That used to be a huge selling point when purchasing a Mac vs PC, genuine thought and consideration had been given to every single interaction and user impact. And then ... Apple lost its way. Now when I get a new Mac I spend the better part of a day turning off as much of the pointless eye candy as I can so that I…

> turning off as much of the pointless eye candy as I can so that I can focus on the task I'm working on, not the distracting UX conventions.

What's worse too is that the means of reducing this distraction and visual mess are arguably only a trade for a different, often equally (though sometimes even more) poorly implemented interface. The high contrast and reduced transparency modes are not well designed at all in my opinion, and they seem like vague afterthoughts in this transition.

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