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India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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law texts feel like a layering problem, like just decoration around decoration to avoid breaking existing 'code' without ever simplifying it

Okay so let’s try simplifying it. We’ll change the existing murder legislation to “Killing someone is a crime”. It’ll save us thousands of pages. But does that mean a soldier shooting an enemy is a crime? What about shooting someone who is raping you? What if you shoot someone by mistake, thinking they’re going to kill you? What if you hit them with a car? What if you fail to provide safety equipment which eventually…

Those exceptions were accumulated over time rather than compiled into a coherent schema. I don't expect a finished product to be a single page, but neither does it require the literally millions that it currently takes up.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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In Australia, our universities are finding that a large proportion of Indian students have been using GenAI for cheating. Often they get away with it. I'm not saying that people other than Indian overseas students cheat, but it does seem more entrenched. I'd love to know why. It doesn't actually help in the long term!

Citation needed. I have seen these kinds of assertion all my life without any evidence to back them up. For example, when I moved to the US, I was told, again without any evidence, Chinese students cheat a lot. It's always a couple of faculty who extrapolate their experiences with a few students and then slap racial labels on the entire student body.

Just where would one get the source for this? It’s not like Universities publish this sort of thing. It’s very much anecdotal, but it’s also very much something that lecturers and tutors have been noticing for so active now.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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post #99

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Citation needed. I have seen these kinds of assertion all my life without any evidence to back them up. For example, when I moved to the US, I was told, again without any evidence, Chinese students cheat a lot. It's always a couple of faculty who extrapolate their experiences with a few students and then slap racial labels on the entire student body.

Exactly; A voice of sanity at last! Notice that these sort of "racist rumours" only started in the last few years and not before. AI has simply lowered the threshold for _everybody_ to take-shortcuts/cheat etc. and nothing specific to any one group other than statistical numbers.

lol this has been going on for years, even before the rise of GenAI.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citation needed. I have seen these kinds of assertion all my life without any evidence to back them up. For example, when I moved to the US, I was told, again without any evidence, Chinese students cheat a lot. It's always a couple of faculty who extrapolate their experiences with a few students and then slap racial labels on the entire student body.

Just where would one get the source for this? It’s not like Universities publish this sort of thing. It’s very much anecdotal, but it’s also very much something that lecturers and tutors have been noticing for so active now.

There are no citations, no hard data, you say anecdotal and yet ask us to believe you?

This is just garden variety racism.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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Exactly; A voice of sanity at last! Notice that these sort of "racist rumours" only started in the last few years and not before. AI has simply lowered the threshold for _everybody_ to take-shortcuts/cheat etc. and nothing specific to any one group other than statistical numbers.

lol this has been going on for years, even before the rise of GenAI.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47270866

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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I feel like this points out a very general problem with the law: it generates a lot of boilerplate text. Lawyers don't really read it; they skim it for the relevant bits. Obviously lawyers should not be cheating with AI, especially when they don't even check it. But it does sound to me as if this is an opportunity to re-factor the process. We're carrying forward some ideas originally implemented in Latin, and which c…

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Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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Okay so let’s try simplifying it. We’ll change the existing murder legislation to “Killing someone is a crime”. It’ll save us thousands of pages. But does that mean a soldier shooting an enemy is a crime? What about shooting someone who is raping you? What if you shoot someone by mistake, thinking they’re going to kill you? What if you hit them with a car? What if you fail to provide safety equipment which eventually…

Those exceptions were accumulated over time rather than compiled into a coherent schema. I don't expect a finished product to be a single page, but neither does it require the literally millions that it currently takes up.

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Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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post #182

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A couple years ago I was at the Virginia DMV along with about 50 other people doing DMV things when all of a sudden someone comes out from the back and gets in front of all the service windows and announces "The DMV is now closed for the day due to a computer problem. Please leave now." Some of the people in that crowd had driven hours to get there. That's why the person who made the coding error should have been dis…

How do you determine it was the person who had done the "coding error"s fault? Sounds to me they are seriously underfunded and you are pointing the blame at an individual in a systemic issue.

The recurring fact of major companies' websites being down for prolonged periods indicates coding errors are not the result of underfunding.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A couple years ago I was at the Virginia DMV along with about 50 other people doing DMV things when all of a sudden someone comes out from the back and gets in front of all the service windows and announces "The DMV is now closed for the day due to a computer problem. Please leave now." Some of the people in that crowd had driven hours to get there. That's why the person who made the coding error should have been dis…

How do you determine it was the person who had done the "coding error"s fault? Sounds to me they are seriously underfunded and you are pointing the blame at an individual in a systemic issue.

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