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OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by skeledrew »

jcgl wrote: post #119
pyridines wrote: post #93

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It is ridiculously more expensive and complicated under the hood, technically, but to the user, the sheer convenience of being able to text the computer "hey, when I get an email like X, inform Y and do Z" and that's it , you're done , is unmatched.

Sure, that’s an interface that’s better for many users and use-cases. However, it seems better if you could, as much as is possible, move the AI stuff from runtime to “compile time.” Instead of having the AI do everything all the time, have AI configure your Zapier (or whatever) on your behalf. That way you can (ideally) get the best of both worlds: the reliability and predictability of classical software, combined w…

That's still too much work. Someone would have to make like an OpenClaw wizard that protectively offers to set all that stuff up. So the potential OpenClaw user can then, on running for the first time, be guided through the setup of whatever they'd like to get connected. And "setup" here means a short description of X and a "Connect? (y/n)" prompt. Anything more and you start losing people.

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Post by amelius »

big-and-small wrote: post #171
kandros wrote: post #73

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Patterns i keep seeing: Once you get the dopamine hit of having an ai assistant do something in the real world it becomes an hammer you want to use on everything Instead of being a problem solver you start to become a problem hunter, and you invent them in order to solve them

> Instead of being a problem solver you start to become a problem hunter, and you invent them in order to solve them Generic problem of any Linux newbie. You get good at solving problems and it's so enjoyable so you end up creating more of them.

However here it is not the user solving the problems.

The only thing they solved is remembering "hey, I can use an AI for that".

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Post by miroljub »

Antipode wrote: post #169
miroljub wrote: post #139

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OpenClaw is rightly being blamed for a mistake it made. Any argument regarding her aptitude would be irrelevant as it would in no way absolve OpenClaw.

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Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by yk »

kandros wrote: post #73
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

Patterns i keep seeing: Once you get the dopamine hit of having an ai assistant do something in the real world it becomes an hammer you want to use on everything Instead of being a problem solver you start to become a problem hunter, and you invent them in order to solve them

Kinda like learning bash. The most annoying time was when I figured out how to send myself SMS via bash script.

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Post by Skidaddle »

kandros wrote: post #73
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

Patterns i keep seeing: Once you get the dopamine hit of having an ai assistant do something in the real world it becomes an hammer you want to use on everything Instead of being a problem solver you start to become a problem hunter, and you invent them in order to solve them

Wow, this definitely describes my obsession with AI over the past year, always hunting for problems to solve with it.

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Post by skeledrew »

blenderob wrote: post #185
jasonshen wrote: post #155

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Many breakthrough technologies appear initially like toys. And this certainly qualifies. I've never been able to code anything more complicated than a memory game in javascript but I have worked with engineering teams for my entire professional career. But prompting my agent to write python scripts to pull down data from various tools via API without having to read docs, do trial and error for hours / days / indefini…

> There's a reason it has so many stars and most of the people getting something out of it are not posting on X. That reason is buying stars, agent swarms, and astroturing. No project gathers 200K stars genuinely in 3 months. There are far more useful and popular projects that need 10 years to get 200K stars. When you see a project like this get 200K stars in just 3 months, you know something is very fishy.

Or you're just missing the generally wide appeal of the project.

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Post by Sharlin »

rcxdude wrote: post #178
siva7 wrote: post #151

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The old dudes had something they called the "Eternal September" like when ISPs began providing free internet access and discussion culture declined after forever. I starred this thread here as the start of the "Eternal March" when the open internet died forever.

It was more that regular people started joining the internet through just paying for ISPs. Before that, most of the people just joining the internet were students, so there would be a wave of newbies at the start of the university year every September and they would get acclimatised to the culture there during the year. But once it was year-round and many more people it swamped things and the culture shifted or close…

Exactly. The "September" was an existing phenomenon, but was only limited to a couple of months every year. It became "Eternal" after the masses started finding their way to internet (well, USENET in particular).
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