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Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by 05 »

tastyfreeze wrote: post #87
logankeenan wrote: post #49

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Do all drones do this now? Is this required by law for manufacturers to implement?

Drones over 250 grams or for any drone operated commercially under part 107 registration is required. But, its easy to just build your own or desolder the id chip if you dont want it.

It’s easy to build your own, but it’s impossible to build one to be as stable as a DJI one, or as cheaply. E.g. with an FPV drone hitting the lens would be much harder (but you could use spray instead of a stick to make it easier). Removing remote id ‘chip’ is plain impossible since it’s implemented by the same radio that does video link.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by alansaber »

cucumber3732842 wrote: post #187
Cipater wrote: post #106

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They actively WANT the dystopian surveillance state.

Lot of money to be made for anyone who gets to pull the strings in such a state.

Yeah I suspect defence-oriented startups massively out-perform most categories

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by RickJWagner »

sidrag22 wrote: post #199
RickJWagner wrote: post #189

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I am unsure how you think this makes your point? thats from 2010. the end of that era. Perhaps you think this was the nail in the coffin? but itunes/ipods had been around for nearly 10 years at that point and a ton of the approachable programs such limewire napster etc, were becoming tougher to use, and it was a transition to torrents instead. in 2010 there was even spotify in the mix. Regardless of all of that, stat…

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Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by rationalist »

kotaKat wrote: post #163
BuyMyBitcoins wrote: post #52

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The use of a drone also ups the ante from a prosecutor’s perspective. Charging a vandal caught with a paintbrush and a ladder is nothing out of the ordinary. A routine misdemeanor. Someone who has the wherewithal to jerry rig a paintball gun to a drone is someone scary . Plus, any officer who witnesses such a drone is almost certainly going to misidentify the paintball gun as an actual gun. I can imagine the operator…

Plus now you're technically arming an aircraft with something, and that might piss off the feds a little bit.

Also, you are dropping something from the aircraft which is a different violation (even if it is moving at 100m/s horizontally while falling at 9.8m/s²).

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by rationalist »

kotaKat wrote: post #164
mullingitover wrote: post #11

I'm surprised the flock cameras aren't being disabled in a more subtle fashion. All it takes is a tiny drone with a stick attached, and at the end of that stick is a tiny sponge soaked with tempera paint. Drone goes 'boop' on the camera lens, and the entire system is disabled until an expensive technician drives out with a ladder and cleans the lens at non-trivial expense. A handful of enterprising activists could bl…

Silly string is fast, cheap, easy, and fun when it freezes onto the camera in colder environments. Maybe some spray foam?

Seems like it would produce a lot of litter on the ground before covering up the lens adequately.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by sidrag22 »

RickJWagner wrote: post #204
sidrag22 wrote: post #199

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I am unsure how you think this makes your point? thats from 2010. the end of that era. Perhaps you think this was the nail in the coffin? but itunes/ipods had been around for nearly 10 years at that point and a ton of the approachable programs such limewire napster etc, were becoming tougher to use, and it was a transition to torrents instead. in 2010 there was even spotify in the mix. Regardless of all of that, stat…

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its just impossible to not read this as. "they used her lawsuit to set an example, so it worked". One can be true and the other can be untrue... Piracy never ended, and it was not a reversion to the old ways post lawsuit, the market evolved based on the pushback from the public. I have no idea how you are drawing your conclusion that because this lawsuit exists, it was the final nail in the piracy coffin, when piracy has literally never gone away.

Anecdotally, I very much lived through this entire era, I've literally never seen that lawsuit until you linked that article(notable the 25k settlement she declined). The idea that it scared the entire USA into compliance is an unbelievable stretch... still.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by co_king_5 »

al_borland wrote: post #200
co_king_5 wrote: post #134

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If there is no real penalty for being a career criminal, people will continue to be career criminals. If someone knows they can rob people and get away with it, why would they do honest work for a living? What is your solution to prevent crime without incarceration as a possible outcome for people breaking the law… especially those who do it repeatedly? It’s easy to talk down to solutions being used today, but withou…

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Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by morkalork »

barnabee wrote: post #171
culi wrote: post #118

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It's wild that you think the problem with the US is too low of an incarceration rate. 25% of all prisoners in the world are in the US

It can be true (and likely is) that both: a) much more time and effort should be focused on catching and stopping the most persistent repeat offenders (sometimes by locking them up); and b) orders of magnitude too many Americans are currently in prison.

From the outside, it looks like the US's society and culture fosters an unusually large criminal class compared to other western countries? If people had access to education, healthcare, jobs that aren't shipped overseas, minimum wage that wasn't laughable, etc, there wouldn't be so much problems? Arguing over severity of punishment while ignoring systemic issues is silly.
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