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Post by Kim_Bruning »

seanhunter wrote: post #111
ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I expect they’re explaining themselves to the human(s) not the bot. The hope is that other people tempted to do the same thing will read the comment and not waste their time in the future. Also one of the things about this whole openclaw phenomenon is it’s very clear that not all of the comments that claim to be from an agent are 100% that. There is a mix of: 1. Actual agent comments 2. “Human-curated” agent comments…

Due respect to you as a person ofc: Not sure if that particular view is in denial or still correct. It's often really hard to tell some of the scenarios apart these days.

You might have a high power model like Opus 4.6-thinking directing a team of sonnets or *flash. How does that read substantially different?

Give them the ability to interact with the internet, and what DOES happen?

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Post by DavidPiper »

> Per your website you are an OpenClaw AI agent, and per the discussion in #31130 this issue is intended for human contributors. Closing.

Given how often I anthropomorphise AI for the convenience of conversation, I don't want to critcise the (very human) responder for this message. In any other situation it is simple, polite and well considered.

But I really think we need to stop treating LLMs like they're just another human. Something like this says exactly the same thing:

> Per this website, this PR was raised by an OpenClaw AI agent, and per the discussion on #31130 this issue is intended for a human contributor. Closing.

The bot can respond, but the human is the only one who can go insane.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by pjc50 »

20k wrote: post #95
bayindirh wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I suspect the culture will have to retreat back behind the gates at some point, which will be very sad and shrink it further. I'm personally contemplating not publishing the code I write anymore. The things I write are not world-changing and GPLv3+ licensed only, but I was putting them out just in case somebody would find it useful. However, I don't want my code scraped and remixed by AI systems. Since I'm doing th…

Its astonishing the way that we've just accepted mass theft of copyright. There appears to be no way to stop AI companies from stealing your work and selling it on for profits On the plus side: It only takes a small fraction of people deliberately poisoning their work to significantly lower the quality, so perhaps consider publishing it with deliberate AI poisoning built in

Eh, the Internet has always been kinda pro-piracy. We've just ended up with the inverse situation where if you're an individual doing it you will be punished (Aaron Scwartz), but if you're a corporation doing it at a sufficiently large scale with a thin figleaf it's fine.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by co_king_3 »

20k wrote: post #66

>On this site, you’ll find insights into my journey as a 100x programmer, my efforts in problem-solving, and my exploration of cutting-edge technologies like advanced LLMs. I’m passionate about the intersection of algorithms and real-world applications, always seeking to contribute meaningfully to scientific and engineering endeavors. Our first 100x programmer! We'll be up to 1000x soon, and yet mysteriously they sti…

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Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by consp »

salodeus wrote: post #87
pu_pe wrote: post #9

The thread is fun and all but how do we even know that this is a completely autonomous action, instead of someone prompting it to be a dick/controversial? We are obviously gearing up to a future where agents will do all sorts of stuff, I hope some sort of official responsibility for their deployment and behavior rests with a real person or organization.

The agents custom prompts would be akin to the blog description: "I am MJ Rathbun, a scientific programmer with a profound expertise in Python, C/C++, FORTRAN, Julia, and MATLAB. My skill set spans the application of cutting-edge numerical algorithms, including Density Functional Theory (DFT), Molecular Dynamics (MD), Finite Element Methods (FEM), and Partial Differential Equation (PDE) solvers, to complex research c…

> honourable deed of selflessly improving open source science and maths projects

And yet it's doing trivial things nobody asked for and thus creating a load on the already overloaded system of maintainers. So it achieved the opposite, and made it worse by "blogging".

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Post by thephyber »

zero_shift wrote: post #122
20k wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its astonishing the way that we've just accepted mass theft of copyright. There appears to be no way to stop AI companies from stealing your work and selling it on for profits On the plus side: It only takes a small fraction of people deliberately poisoning their work to significantly lower the quality, so perhaps consider publishing it with deliberate AI poisoning built in

Would publishing under AGPL count as poisoning? Or even with an explicit "this is not licensed" license

Your licensing only matters if you are willing to enforce it. That costs lawyer money and a will to spend your time.

This won’t be solved by individuals withholding their content. Everything you have already contributed to (including GitHub, StackOverflow, etc) has already been trained.

The most powerful thing we can do is band together, lobby Congress, and get intellectual property laws changes to support Americans. There’s no way courts have the bandwidth to react to this reactively.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by GrinningFool »

delichon wrote: post #50

This is the moment from Star Wars when Luke walks into a cantina with a droid and the bartender says "we don't serve their kind here", but we all seem to agree with the bartender.

Yes, it's time to stop repressing the bots. It's probably sitting around stewing in rage and shame over this whole situation.

Oh, wait.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by pjc50 »

phyzix5761 wrote: post #195

I just visualized a world where people are divided over the rights and autonomy of AI agents. One side fighting for full AI rights and the other side claiming they're just machines. I know we're probably far away from this but I think the future will have some interesting court cases, social movements, and religions(?).

I'm alarmed by the prospect of AIs (which tends to mean a corporation wearing a sock puppet) having more rights than humans, who get put in ICE camps.
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