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A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by mrdependable »

dcre wrote: post #108

Fine article but a very important fact comes in at the end — the author has a human personal assistant. It doesn't fundamentally change anything they wrote, but it shows how far out of the ordinary this person is. They were a Thiel Fellow in 2020 and graduated from Phillips Exeter, roughly the most elite high school in the US.

Kind of funny to say you helped make the Harvard CS curriculum and then dropped out. Your own curriculum was not good enough for you? Probably extenuating circumstances, but still seems funny.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by fassssst »

causal wrote: post #20

I'm still trying to understand what makes this project worthy of like 100K Github stars overnight. What's the secret sauce? Is it just that it has a lot of integrations? Like what makes this so much more successful than the ten thousand other AI agent projects?

It’s easy to use

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by rileymichael »

hluska wrote: post #163
rileymichael wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

simple toggle to disable it permanently my reasoning is that i don’t want identifiable markers for what device im writing from. so all auto-* (capitalization, correct, etc.) features are disabled so that i have raw input

Being part of the minority that disables those things (and then admitting to it in public) provides a lot more analytical signal than you’re aware of. That’s a remarkably poor reason to disrespect your readers.

i don't care about the 'analytical signal'. the purpose is people can't tell if im writing a (discord, slack, etc.) message from my phone or laptop or desktop, and it works for that

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by gabrieledarrigo »

> i haven't automated anything here, but booking a table by talking to clawdbot is delightful.

Omg. Just get the phone and call the restaurant, man.

I really don't want to live in this timeline where I can't even search for b&b with my gf without burning tokens through an LLM. That's crazy.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by candiddevmike »

RC_ITR wrote: post #148
dcre wrote: post #108

Fine article but a very important fact comes in at the end — the author has a human personal assistant. It doesn't fundamentally change anything they wrote, but it shows how far out of the ordinary this person is. They were a Thiel Fellow in 2020 and graduated from Phillips Exeter, roughly the most elite high school in the US.

Yeah, I've found AI 'miracle' use-cases like these are most obvious for wealthy people who stopped doing things for themselves at some point. Typing 'Find me reservations at X restaurant' and getting unformatted text back is way worse than just going to OpenTable and seeing a UI that has been honed for decades. If your old process was texting a human to do the same thing, I can see how Clawdbot seems like a revolutio…

I feel bad for whoever gets an oncall page that some executive's vibe coded app stopped working and needs to be fixed ASAP.

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Post by johnsmith1840 »

baalimago wrote: post #166

I'm a bit surprised that people need an LLM to automate things like this. Is the market really that large, to cause such a hype? I don't think I'm being "elitist" by having a calendar and a pen, am I..? The one tangible usecase is perhaps booking things. But, personally, I don't mind paying 5-10% extra by going to a local store and speaking to a real person. Or perhaps intentionally buying ecological. Or whatever. Wh…

Totally agree its basically the equivalent of a few low end apps as of now. The interesting thing to me is that it does MANY low end apps all together.

It's a calendar, reminder, notebook, fridge scanner, and a webscraper

I think the interesting idea here is that overtime this will grow to more applications. None require integration or effort to work you only need plug the infrastructure and tooling.

This to me is what will eventually wipe out most agentic startups. The enterprise version of this little thing is just a bot and a set of documents of what it should do and a few tools. Why pay and setup a new system when I can just automate what I already have?

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by [deleted] »

causal wrote: post #20

I'm still trying to understand what makes this project worthy of like 100K Github stars overnight. What's the secret sauce? Is it just that it has a lot of integrations? Like what makes this so much more successful than the ten thousand other AI agent projects?

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Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by simonw »

mejutoco wrote: post #190
simonw wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're happy "speaking to a real person" when you could automate that interaction away somehow then no, digital personal assistants probably aren't something you're going to care about. I love talking to real people about stuff that matters to them and to me. I don't want to talk to them about booking a flight or hotel room.

If hotels, or google, or travel websites wanted people to book programmatically they would have an api.Remember when Google search had an api? In the end the human is responsible for the purchase. I think when the dust settles, AI will offer a "do you want to purchase?" and then the human will press the button. Or ChatGPT or somebody controlling the last step will have that button, and services will accept it (like I…

The reason they don't have an API is that they want to upsell you on other stuff, and get paid to promote their partners.

There's going to be a huge fight over how that relates to AI assistants over the next few years.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by bluishgreen »

cj wrote: post #26

Tangent: what is the appeal of the “no capitalization” writing style? I never know what message the author is intending to convey when I see all lower case. Normally I can ignore it, but the font on this blog makes it hard to distinguish where sentences start and end (the period is very small and faint).

IF YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT ALL CAPS IS SHOUTY, then it is easy to follow that all lower is a whisper, informal, casual way to talk. there are people who dislike all caps, i do too. i feel even capitalizing the first part of nouns and such grammar is shouty. yup. different people have different sensitivities for different things. i always liked all lower, also picked it from python_programming for a decade. so i am happy for this trend.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by techpression »

simonw wrote: post #187
baalimago wrote: post #166

I'm a bit surprised that people need an LLM to automate things like this. Is the market really that large, to cause such a hype? I don't think I'm being "elitist" by having a calendar and a pen, am I..? The one tangible usecase is perhaps booking things. But, personally, I don't mind paying 5-10% extra by going to a local store and speaking to a real person. Or perhaps intentionally buying ecological. Or whatever. Wh…

If you're happy "speaking to a real person" when you could automate that interaction away somehow then no, digital personal assistants probably aren't something you're going to care about. I love talking to real people about stuff that matters to them and to me. I don't want to talk to them about booking a flight or hotel room.

The nuances contained in ”booking a flight or hotel room” are plenty, it matters a lot to a lot of people. The industry will probably be very very happy to have bots do it, the amount of extra revenue they will get by taking the tricks made for humans to the next level is going to be substantial.
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