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Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by paradox460 »

bentcorner wrote: post #39
umvi wrote: post #2

Seems like a good reason you should need to "pair" the RF remote to the device, similar to Bluetooth. Otherwise a bad actor in an apartment complex could get a "universal" RF remote and randomly try stuff until they can control your devices.

Honestly I could see arguments going both ways. Pairing prevents unauthorized access, but at the same time, pairing means you need to be able to pair without having a paired device on-hand. For a passive read-only device (like most satellite/cable receivers 20 years ago), it was probably more important to allow customers to easily replace their lost remotes than it was to prevent pranksters (who could often be dissua…

Game console manufacturers figured this out ages ago. Press button on the console, press button on the controller, they're now paired

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by paradox460 »

mstaoru wrote: post #92

We moved into a new flat with really bad lighting and I decided to buy those "AmazeFun" (or whatever generic named CN brand) "smart" LED ceiling lights. Bought one for each of four rooms. Installed, tested them with the app, everything works, great! Got out the remotes since pulling out the phone to use the app every time you want to turn on the light in the room is a bit much for me. Pressed Power, boom, the whole h…

Fwiw, get bulbs that run something like wled. You can pair them with esp-now remotes, like the wiiz remote

https://www.athom.tech/blank-1/wled-15w-color-bulb

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by matheusmoreira »

Tade0 wrote: post #186
matheusmoreira wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You don't "teach" your neighbors and you don't program them in a pavlovian way. Sure you do. Punishment of bad behavior is a basic social rule. Words were exchanged. All they had to do was listen, understand and stop the bad behavior. Had they done that, things would not have escalated beyond a polite conversation. Unfortunately, people often choose overt disrespect instead. They choose to challenge the other guy t…

Humans are more complex than that. If they become aware that someone is applying such conditioning, they will defy it. For the same reason corporal punishment doesn't work even on an average intelligence child. They quickly figure out that probability of getting punished again is not 100% and even if, that's just cost of doing business - sometimes it's worth it.

It's not complex at all. It's just violence. People are doing things you don't want them to do, so you do something to make them stop. Pretty standard.

If they can muster defiance, it's only because you weren't violent enough. If someone is defiant enough to play probability games with you, just punish them 100% of the time instead, even if they did nothing. He was probably doing it some other time where you didn't catch him, so it's warranted.

There's always someone willing to escalate things further. Things will escalate until someone discovers their limits and backs down. Consequences range from being quietly hated, to being ostracized, to being actively fucked with, to being beaten up, to being straight up killed.

Smart people don't fuck around and find out. They check their behavior so that they don't step on other people's toes for no reason. Violence very often comes with instructions on how to avoid it. Don't do this, and I won't do that. All they have to do is listen and follow the instructions.

The outcome where the obnoxious neighbor learns his lesson and stops his bad behavior is the good ending. The behavior stops, the situation de-escalates and peace is restored. If they keep up their defiance, things will only keep escalating further. Somebody could get hurt.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by eps »

PunchyHamster wrote: post #72
jakedata wrote: post #23

There was a Windows 2000 bug that would allow the computer to be crashed via a malformed IrDA packet. Of course someone crafted a Palm Pilot app to zonk all the vulnerable PCs in the vicinity. It worked on servers as well. Endless fun for a little while.

why would there be irda on server ?

Bonus question is which PCs had IR ports.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by steveBK123 »

Great story and reminds me how good I have it in my current apartment re: noise.

In NYC it is really a roll of the dice, and it doesn't matter if you rent or own in a condo/coop. In some ways renting is probably better since you can simply leave at end of lease (or break lease) without incurring huge financial costs.

In 2 of the 4 apartments I've lived over 20 years I have had underemployed neighbors who threw parties and/or watched TV on maximum volume weekdays at 4am. Wish I knew about the TV-B-Gone back in the bad TV neighbors days.

In some ways I think we've all gone soft as a society and have "broken windows policing" type rules we are reluctant to enforce, which allows the inconsiderate to infringe with impunity. Apartment buildings usually have house rules but they are generally weak on enforcement. Both of my bad neighbor problems were large enough problems that half the building was up in arms and it still took years to resolve.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by steveBK123 »

shawn_w wrote: post #174
postalcoder wrote: post #111

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This post and your comment has me thinking about STFU, posted here a couple weeks ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46649142 Is it feasible to capture and directionally pipe audio back to a rude neighbor? Seems like it could be effective.

Obligatory xkcd: https://xkcd.com/316/

Oh I had one of those neighbors too, but I don't even count them in my bad noisy neighbors list.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by Hikikomori »

its_ubuntu wrote: post #163
idiotsecant wrote: post #153

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You sound just delightful. A wonderful blend of ignorant and weird-but-not-in-the-good-way. Smoking anything is bad for you, including the thing you like. PM 2.5 contamination is enormously harmful, and it doesn't magically go away if it's weed.

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You sound just like RFK Jr.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by throw4847285 »

nntwozz wrote: post #187
tartoran wrote: post #113

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I'd feel a bit too lonely at 5km distance to the nearest neighbor as a matter of fact I don't think I ever visited or stayed at such a property. Are you completely off grid? What are the drawbacks of living in such a place and is it overall a better deal for you? It sounds very tempting for me too but I don't think I'm ready for this just yet.

I have no electricity except solar. It works well for all my needs, technology has solved this depending on your needs and how much money you have. I have no water except the one I bring when I buy food weekly/every two weeks. I'm still renovating/building so I'll have a well in the future. I heat my home with wood that I cut on my own property, I enjoy this very much. It's a workout that also produces something of v…

Before your last sentence I thought, "wow this person is some kind of space alien." But as soon as you said "this is in Sweden," I understood you completely. I don't know what that says about me or Sweden. But it all clicked into place.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by throw4847285 »

bravoetch wrote: post #123

It's concerning that many responses in this thread have a similar story of negatively messing with someone until they adjust their behaviour. Please, if you think this is okay you shouldn't even be allowed a dog, let alone social interactions with other people.

Yeah not to be a scold, but the degree of antisocial/passive-aggressive behavior stuns me.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by its_ubuntu »

jemmyw wrote: post #195
zaphar wrote: post #191

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I did read their post history. I guess it's nice to understand that people who rant like morons don't believe they rant like morons. I always wondered about the self awareness of it.

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