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Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Post by jacquesm »

azan_ wrote: post #200
jacquesm wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, we'll expand to porn and gambling - images - payment systems - stored video - banner advertising - performance based advertising - affiliation - live video - video chat - fora Etc... AI is a very logical frontier for the porn industry.

Just because things can be used for porn, it doesn't mean that it was porn that has driven their progress.

All of the things above were driven by porn, that can be proven. The AI stuff in the generic sense is not but you can bet that someone somewhere right now is working on improving photo realism of hair, eyes and skintone and they're not doing that to be able to make the next installment of little red riding hood.

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Post by [deleted] »

MBCook wrote: post #168
estimator7292 wrote: post #162

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While this is a valid take, I feel compelled to point out Chuck Tingle. The sheer amount and variety of smut books (just books) is vastly larger than anyone wants to realize. We passed the mark decades ago where there is smut available for any and every taste. Like, to the point that even LLMs are going to take a long time to put a dent in the smut market. Humans have been making smut for longer than we've had writin…

That’s all simple one way consumption though. I suspect the effect on people is very different when it’s interactive in the way an LLM can be that we’ve never had to recon with before. That’s where the danger may lie.

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Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Post by azan_ »

jacquesm wrote: post #201
azan_ wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because things can be used for porn, it doesn't mean that it was porn that has driven their progress.

All of the things above were driven by porn, that can be proven. The AI stuff in the generic sense is not but you can bet that someone somewhere right now is working on improving photo realism of hair, eyes and skintone and they're not doing that to be able to make the next installment of little red riding hood.

Can you actually prove it?

Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Post by Stratoscope »

From the blog post (twice):

> creative ideation

At first I had no idea what this meant! So I asked my friend Miss Chatty [1] and we had an interesting conversation about it:

https://chatgpt.com/share/697bf761-990c-8012-9dd1-6ca1d5cc34...

[1] You may know her as ChatGPT, but I figure all the other AIs have fun human-sounding names, so she deserves one too.

Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Post by jacquesm »

azan_ wrote: post #203
jacquesm wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of the things above were driven by porn, that can be proven. The AI stuff in the generic sense is not but you can bet that someone somewhere right now is working on improving photo realism of hair, eyes and skintone and they're not doing that to be able to make the next installment of little red riding hood.

Can you actually prove it?

Yes, I was there for quite a bit of it...

Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Post by jasonfarnon »

jacquesm wrote: post #185
runarberg wrote: post #181

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This seems like a believable lie, until you think about it for 2 seconds. No. Porn has not driven even a fraction of the progress on the progress on the internet. Not even close to one.

Ok, we'll expand to porn and gambling - images - payment systems - stored video - banner advertising - performance based advertising - affiliation - live video - video chat - fora Etc... AI is a very logical frontier for the porn industry.

I don't remember any of these being "driven" by porn. The first applications weren't porn-based. Maybe live video--a split second after seeing the tech for the first time, probably 99% of guys were thinking of _applying_ it to porn. But, even for the usual money-grubbing startups, there was plenty of money coming from non-porn sources. Probably no different than the invention of camera, tv, videocamera, etc. and you wouldn't say porn drove that.

Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Post by jacquesm »

jasonfarnon wrote: post #206
jacquesm wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, we'll expand to porn and gambling - images - payment systems - stored video - banner advertising - performance based advertising - affiliation - live video - video chat - fora Etc... AI is a very logical frontier for the porn industry.

I don't remember any of these being "driven" by porn. The first applications weren't porn-based. Maybe live video--a split second after seeing the tech for the first time, probably 99% of guys were thinking of _applying_ it to porn. But, even for the usual money-grubbing startups, there was plenty of money coming from non-porn sources. Probably no different than the invention of camera, tv, videocamera, etc. and you…

> I don't remember any of these being "driven" by porn.

That's ok.

> The first applications weren't porn-based.

They most definitely were, it is just that you are not aware of it. There runs a direct line from the 1-900 phone industry to the internet adult industry, those guys had money like water and they spent a fortune on these developments. Not all of them worked out but quite a few of them did and as a result those very same characters managed to grab a substantial chunk of early internet commerce.

Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Post by laweijfmvo »

leumon wrote: post #73

> We’re continuing to make progress toward a version of ChatGPT designed for adults over 18, grounded in the principle of treating adults like adults, and expanding user choice and freedom within appropriate safeguards. To support this, we’ve rolled out age prediction for users under 18 in most markets. https://help.openai.com/en/articles/12652064-age-prediction-... interesting

imagine if every only fans creator suddenly paid a portion of their revenue to OpenAI for better messaging with their followers…

Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Post by waynesonfire »

> with only 0.1% of users still choosing GPT‑4o each day.

LOL WHAT?! I'm 0.1% of users? I'm certain part of the issue is it takes 3-clicks to switch to GPT-4o and it has to be done each time the page is loaded.

> that they preferred GPT‑4o’s conversational style and warmth.

Uh.. yeah maybe. But more importantly, GPT-4o gave better answers.

Zero acknowledgement about how terrible GPT-5 was when it was first released. It has since improved but it's not clear to me it's on-par with GPT-4o. Thinking mode is just too slow to be useful and so GPT-4o still seems better and faster.

Oh well, it'll be missed.

Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Post by CamperBob2 »

bethekidyouwant wrote: post #188
runarberg wrote: post #174

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And that makes it all alright doesn’t it? There are also gangs making money off human trafficking? Does that make it OK for a corporation to make money off human trafficking as well? And there are companies making money off wars? When you argue with whataboutism, you can just point to whatever you like, and somehow that is an argument in your favor.

How is ai sex chat like any of those things, whataboutism indeed

It's bad because people are engaging in it without getting permission from runarberg on Hacker News.
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