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Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by techblueberry »

seizethecheese wrote: post #5

> There’s an extremely hurtful narrative going around that my product, a revolutionary new technology that exists to scam the elderly and make you distrust anything you see online, is harmful to society The article is certainly interesting as yet another indicator of the backlash against AI, but I must say, “exists to scam the elderly” is totally absurd. I get that this is satire, but satire has to have some basis in…

Porn was enabled by the internet’s but does the internet exist for this purpose?

Yes. Yes it does. That is the satire.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by consumer451 »

donkey_brains wrote: post #154
jaybyrd wrote: post #2

guys were just trying to take jobs away from you.... please stop being mean to us - richest people on earth 2026

Today a manager at my work asked all his teams including mine “please write up a report on how many engineers from your teams we could replace with AI”. Surprisingly, the answer he got was “none, because that’s not how AI works”. Guess we’ll see if that registers…

I use various agentic dev tools all day long, mostly with Opus. The tools are very capable now, but when planning mid-complexity features, I find the time estimates hilarious.

Phase 1: 1-2 weeks

Phase 2: 1 week

Phase 3: 2 weeks

8 to 12 hours later, all the work is done and tested.

The funny part to me was that if I had an AI true believer boss, I would report those time estimates directly, and have a lot of time to do other stuff.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by datsci_est_2015 »

technofastest wrote: post #169
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that someone interested in discussing facts would not write the phrase "immoral technofascist life". If I took the discussion at face value, I might respond asking for examples of how e.g. Dario Amodei is a "technofascist", but I think we can agree that would be really obtuse of me.

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No see “facts” are what I use to support my worldview, and what you’ve supplied are arguments, and I can discard your arguments through debate, especially because I believe that they’re founded on your feelings (like a silly “conscience”).

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by daveguy »

gruez wrote: post #184
derektank wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t the reason we have a public domain so that people aren’t in a perpetual debt to their intellectual forebears?

Copyrights last a very long time. Moreover nothing says it has to be open. The recipe to coke is still secret.

The recipe of coke is not a copyright, it is a trade secret. Trade secrets can remain indefinitely if you can keep it secret. Copyrights are "open" by their nature.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by tdb7893 »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #111
tdb7893 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a reason you seem to view conscience and confronting facts as seemingly opposed things? Also it seems to me like morality and conscience seem important to argue about, with facts just being part of that argument.

I think that someone interested in discussing facts would not write the phrase "immoral technofascist life". If I took the discussion at face value, I might respond asking for examples of how e.g. Dario Amodei is a "technofascist", but I think we can agree that would be really obtuse of me.

Haha, my experience is people making those sorts of pronouncements will argue literally anything so I definitely wouldn't assume they are uninterested in arguing facts. Though I agree though that arguing with some people is obtuse and you arguing with the original post seems one of those cases.

More my confusion is the person I was responding to complaining about people arguing morality, which seems incredibly important to discuss. Lack of facts obviously makes discussions bad but there's definitely not some dichotomy with discussing morality (at least not with the people I know. My issue has not nearly been as much with people arguing morality, which is often my more productive arguments, and more people with a fundamentally incompatible view on what the facts are).

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by twoodfin »

snowwrestler wrote: post #147

> As someone who desperately needs this technology to work out, I can honestly say it is the most essential tool ever created in all of human history. For those having trouble finding the humor, it lies in the vast gulf between grand assertions that LLMs will fundamentally transform every aspect of human life, and plaintive requests to stop saying mean things about it. As a contrast: truly successful products obviate…

Or maybe McSweeney’s hasn’t been consistently funny for years and years?

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by whattheheckheck »

consumer451 wrote: post #202
donkey_brains wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Today a manager at my work asked all his teams including mine “please write up a report on how many engineers from your teams we could replace with AI”. Surprisingly, the answer he got was “none, because that’s not how AI works”. Guess we’ll see if that registers…

I use various agentic dev tools all day long, mostly with Opus. The tools are very capable now, but when planning mid-complexity features, I find the time estimates hilarious. Phase 1: 1-2 weeks Phase 2: 1 week Phase 3: 2 weeks 8 to 12 hours later, all the work is done and tested. The funny part to me was that if I had an AI true believer boss, I would report those time estimates directly, and have a lot of time to d…

When youre the boss telling kids how to work what time esti.ates will you believe?

Tis the cycle

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by snowwrestler »

twoodfin wrote: post #207
snowwrestler wrote: post #147

> As someone who desperately needs this technology to work out, I can honestly say it is the most essential tool ever created in all of human history. For those having trouble finding the humor, it lies in the vast gulf between grand assertions that LLMs will fundamentally transform every aspect of human life, and plaintive requests to stop saying mean things about it. As a contrast: truly successful products obviate…

Or maybe McSweeney’s hasn’t been consistently funny for years and years?

McSweeney’s was never consistently funny. This is a good piece though.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by gruez »

daveguy wrote: post #205
gruez wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copyrights last a very long time. Moreover nothing says it has to be open. The recipe to coke is still secret.

The recipe of coke is not a copyright, it is a trade secret. Trade secrets can remain indefinitely if you can keep it secret. Copyrights are "open" by their nature.

In the context of this discussion though, what makes you think openai can't keep theirs a trade secret?
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