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Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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post #199

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> He‘s also a VERY good iOS and macOS engineer so he single handedly gave clawd capabilities like controlling macOS Surely a very good engineer would not be so foolish.

Problem of definition, you're conflating good with cautious, I would not.

engineer -> cautious.

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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post #198

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Using your CC Max account for this seems like a good way to get your account banned, as it's against the ToS and Anthropic has started enforcing this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only legal way to use pi is to use an API, and that's enormously expensive.

Sure, I'm not using it with my company/enterprise account for that reason. But for my private sub, it's worth the tradeoff/risk. Ethically I see no issue at all, because those LLMs are trained on who knows what. But you can use pi with z.ai or any of the other cheap Claude-distilled providers for a couple bucks per month. Just calculate the risk that your data might be sold I guess?

Really curious, what paragraph of the ToS is being violated?

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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post #138

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If you want iMessage you still need an always-on Mac, whether that's the main moltbot gateway, or the MacOS app running in 'node mode' to allow a moltbot gateway to use it to send/receive iMessages.

> need an always-on Mac Not really, you can emulate macOS on any Linux/x86-64. But it is actually a good point to get a Mac Mini instead of a NUC. The Mac Mini is going to deliver better performance per Watt.

> Not really, you can emulate macOS on any Linux/x86-64.

Intel is going to stop being supported with the current OS version (Tahoe, 2025). OS are supported for about 3 years.

I'm curious what will happen after. If they'll break it or if they'll allow the services to keep running on unsupported hardware.

Got a couple years left

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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post #124

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Maybe those folks buying Mac Minis to host at home weren't so silly after all. The exposed ones are almost all hosted on VPSs which, by design, have publicly-routable IP addresses. But anyway I think connecting to a Clawdbot instance requires pairing unless you're coming from localhost: https://docs.molt.bot/start/pairing

The silly part is buying a $600 Mac mini when any $100 NUC or $50 raspberry pi or any cheap mini PC off of eBay will do the job exactly the same.

Doesn't Moltbot specifically require MacOS for iMessage, Apple reminders, and some other Apple-ecosystem features?

HN is the last place I expected to see someone laugh at self-hosting

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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post #164

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Can you really register iMessage on an emulated MacOS these days? I'd love to learn more, the AIs I asked say it doesn't seem possible in VMs anymore.

I think you need to register on a real Mac (2 of 3 of my MBPs use OCLP), but then can use an emulated one if you add it to your Apple account. Either way, I don't recommend to use a protocol behind such a moat. Probably better to use Signal or Threema.

Moltbot is supposed to be a 'personal AI assistant'

with >60% market share in US, you can't really expect people to just 'not use iMessage'. It's what the messages are going to be coming in on

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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post #145

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The silly part is buying a $50 raspberry pi, then storage and memory and so on, when a $200 used M1 Mac mini is plug-and-play.

The silly part is buying a $200 used M1 Mac mini, when a $5 Arduino clone can be used to blink an LED. Oh wait—that’s the silly part

That was supposed to be a joke. Guess I won’t give up my day job

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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post #198

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Sure, I'm not using it with my company/enterprise account for that reason. But for my private sub, it's worth the tradeoff/risk. Ethically I see no issue at all, because those LLMs are trained on who knows what. But you can use pi with z.ai or any of the other cheap Claude-distilled providers for a couple bucks per month. Just calculate the risk that your data might be sold I guess?

Really curious, what paragraph of the ToS is being violated?

https://venturebeat.com/technology/anthropic-cracks-down-on-... don't have the paragraph, but here's the news about it for you.

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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I’m out of the loop clearly on what clawdbot/moltbot offers (haven’t used it)- I’d love a first hand explanation from users for why you think it has 70k stars. I’ve never seen a repo explode that much.

It it was a bit surreal to see it happen live. GH project went to 70k stars and got a trademark cease‑and‑desist from Anthropic, had to rebrand in one night and even got pulled into an account takeover by crypto people.

I made a timeline of what happened if you want the details: https://www.everydev.ai/p/the-rise-fall-and-rebirth-of-clawd...

Did you follow it as it was going on, or are you just catching up now?

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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I’m out of the loop clearly on what clawdbot/moltbot offers (haven’t used it)- I’d love a first hand explanation from users for why you think it has 70k stars. I’ve never seen a repo explode that much.

It it was a bit surreal to see it happen live. GH project went to 70k stars and got a trademark cease‑and‑desist from Anthropic, had to rebrand in one night and even got pulled into an account takeover by crypto people. I made a timeline of what happened if you want the details: https://www.everydev.ai/p/the-rise-fall-and-rebirth-of-clawd... Did you follow it as it was going on, or are you just catching up now?

My twitter timeline was dominated by it for a few days and would see periodic star stats posted, but certainly didn't monitor the repo.

I've seen the author's posts over the last while, unrelated to this project, but I bet this had quite the impact on his life

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