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Re: Prism

#201

Good idea to name this after the spy program that Snowden talked about.

idk if OpenAI knew that Prism is already a very popular desktop app for scientists and that it's one of the last great pieces of optimized native software? https://www.graphpad.com/

I very much doubt they knew much about what they were building if they didn't know this.

Re: Prism

#202
I understand the collaborative aspects, but I wonder how this is going to compare to my current workflow of just working with LaTeX files in my IDE and using whichever model provider I like. I already have a good workflow and modern models do just fine generating and previewing LaTeX with existing toolchains.

Of course, my scientific and mathematical research is done in isolation, so I'm not wanting much for collaborative features. Still, kind of interested to see how this shakes out; We're going to need to see OpenAI really step it up against Claude Opus though if they really want to be a leader in this space.

Re: Prism

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

idk if OpenAI knew that Prism is already a very popular desktop app for scientists and that it's one of the last great pieces of optimized native software? https://www.graphpad.com/

They don't care. Musk stole a chunk Heinlein's literary legacy with Grok (which unlike prism wasn't a common word) and noone bat an eye.

> Grok (which unlike prism wasn't a common word)

"Grok" was a term used in my undergrad CS courses in the early 2010s. It's been a pretty common word in computing for a while now, though the current generation of young programmers and computer scientists seem not to know it as readily, so it may be falling out of fashion in those spaces.

Re: Prism

#204
post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

idk if OpenAI knew that Prism is already a very popular desktop app for scientists and that it's one of the last great pieces of optimized native software? https://www.graphpad.com/

They don't care. Musk stole a chunk Heinlein's literary legacy with Grok (which unlike prism wasn't a common word) and noone bat an eye.

He stole a letter, too.

Re: Prism

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From my perspective as a journal editor and a reviewer these kinds of tools cause many more problems than they actually solve. They make the 'barrier to entry' for submitting vibed semi-plausible journal articles much lower, which I understand some may see as a benefit. The drawback is that scientific editors and reviewers provide those services for free, as a community benefit. One example was a submission their und…

I wonder if there's a way to tax the frivolous submissions. There could be a submission fee that would be fully reimbursed iff the submission is actually accepted for publication. If you're confident in your paper, you can think of it as a deposit. If you're spamming journals, you're just going to pay for the wasted time. Maybe you get reimbursed for half as long as there are no obvious hallucinations.

If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law exists only for the lower class

In other words, such a structure would not dissuade bad actors with large financial incentives to push something through a process that grants validity to a hypothesis. A fine isn't going to stop tobacco companies from spamming submissions that say smoking doesn't cause lung cancer or social media companies from spamming submissions that their products aren't detrimental to the mental health.

Re: Prism

#207
The video shows a user asking Prism to find articles to cite and to put them in a bib file. But what's the point of citing papers that aren't referenced in the paper you're actually writing? Can you do that?

Edit: You can add papers that are not cited, to bibliography. Video is about bibliography and I was thinking about cited works.

Re: Prism

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post #204
post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't care. Musk stole a chunk Heinlein's literary legacy with Grok (which unlike prism wasn't a common word) and noone bat an eye.

He stole a letter, too.

That bothers more than it should. Every single time I see a new post about Twitter, I think that there's some update for X11 or X Server or something, only to be reminded that Twitter has been changed.

Re: Prism

#209
Many people here talk about Overleaf as if it was the 'dumb' editor without any of these capabilities. It had them for some time via Writefull integration (https://www.writefull.com/writefull-for-overleaf). Who's going to win will probably be decided by brand recognition with Overleaf having a better starting position in this field, but money obviously being on OAI's side. With some of Writefull's features being dependent on ChatGPT's API, it's clear they are set to be priced-out unless they do something smart.

Re: Prism

#210

The video shows a user asking Prism to find articles to cite and to put them in a bib file. But what's the point of citing papers that aren't referenced in the paper you're actually writing? Can you do that? Edit: You can add papers that are not cited, to bibliography. Video is about bibliography and I was thinking about cited works.

A common approach to research is to do literature review first, and build up a library of citable material. Then when writing your article, you summarize the relevant past research and put in appropriate citations.

To clarify, there is a difference between a bibliography (a list of relevant works but not necessarily cited), and cited work (a direct reference in an article to relevant work). But most people start with a bibliography (the superset of relevant work) to make their citations.

Most academics who have been doing research for a long time maintain an ongoing bibliography of work in their field. Some people do it as a giant .bib file, some use software products like Zotero, Mendeley, etc. A few absolute psychos keep track of their bibliography in MS Word references (tbh people in some fields do this because .docx is the accepted submission format for their journals, not because they are crazy).

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