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California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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Makes for a catchy headline, but you only have to go back to Jan 9, 2024* to find a similarly 'drought free' California: https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/Maps/CompareTwoWeeks.aspx (*Technically slivers of the state in the far north/south were 'abnormally dry' in 2024, a small difference from 2026)

Wait so who is being dishonest, the old article, the new one, or both?

Both!

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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Isn't this the same state where the rich people water their plush lawns even in the peak of summer during drought? And where 90% of the water for its huge capital city-district (Los Angeles) is not even sourced locally (say, by desalination of seawater, as it is a coastal city), but it's instead piped from hundreds of miles away, while banning the villages at the source locations from using the local rivers/lakes as…

"villages"? You're not from here are you? Makes me wonder if internationally you're getting general anti-American propaganda or if Republican anti-California propaganda is leaking worldwide.

If the richest state in the USA cannot do effective seawater desalination project to feed itself, but would rather drain out lakes and rivers from 400+ miles away (thus rendering those places unfit for farming, and forcing the locals there to get water from somewhere else long distance off), and the locals of that richest state happily waste that expensively sourced water during drought years, then it is plain and simple mismanagement of precious water resources.

If you aren't yet terrified of climate change, and if you think such mismanagement of natural resources is sustainable in the long-run, you need a rethink, my friend.

The droughts are going to get worse. Case in point: Madagascar.

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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not even close to 2023 or 2017 seasons here in norcal, not by a mile...

I am so sad I missed 2023. But now I have the skills to really enjoy the next dump.

I wish I'd missed it. We had 12 feet of snow in 3 weeks where I live in the Sierra, and we're only at 4,500 feet above sea level. We average several feet a year, so we know snow, but not 12 feet in 3 weeks. We couldn't see out of our windows. I spent 3-8 hours a day for 3 weeks clearing snow from our driveway and cul-de-sac, only to have to wait longer for the county to clear the road beyond. We were running out of places to put the snow we cleared. Towards the end, people could no longer clear their roofs because the snow on the ground was so high. Decks collapsed everywhere, as did several roofs. There was no getting out for supplies, emergencies, etc. The ski resort nearest us closed because it was too difficult to get there.

Immediately after, we had a foot of rain in two weeks. That took care of much of the snow. But it also washed away significant roads (along with several feet of earth beneath them), some of which took a year or more to get back open.

The ground was so saturated that many septic systems failed in my neighborhood, some with water running into the houses through toilets/drains because the underground water table on the high side of their property was above those drains (artesian springs aren't so charming when they are coming through your septic system and out of your toilet). Most of those folks have installed one-way valves now, but that still means you can't flush in such scenarios because the water has nowhere to go. Ours didn't flow in reverse, but our drains/toilets stopped draining for ~2 months.

I like winter weather, but I'd be happy to never relive Feb/Mar of 2023 in the Sierra. I'll still take it over the floods that happen in valleys and flat lands as a result of such events.

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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I guess I'm wrong. It was south of the Bay area. I live in NY, but I remember hearing from friends in CA that it got very bad. I think this story is only the latest one: https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/more-rain-expec...

That article is about flooding that is about as far from the Bay Area as Suffolk, VA is from New York City. It's in California but California is...large. Especially along the North-South axis.

Well, it’s also not what I was thinking about. There were some huge floods. It may have been more than a year ago. When you get to my age, time does weird things.

Nevermind. It’s not something that’s worth any agita. It’s obvious that it’s not something that left many scars.

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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That was widely ridiculed, but despite how it sometimes seems policy makers are not so stupid to believe saving water from cups not drunk would make a meaningful difference directly. One of the big hurdles for changing human behavior at scale is improving awareness. Even people who want to conserve their water usage benefit from frequent reminders to actually make changes stick. Being reminded the state is in a droug…

Well it didn’t work. I don’t elect my representatives to change human behavior at scale.

What do you elect them for then?

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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This might be a stupid question, but if "drought" means "abnormally dry" yet an area is in "drought" 90% of the time, does that not just mean the definition of drought is wrong?

It would be more accurate to say that dry periods in california are just "normal weather" and the occasional wet periods are the abnormal weather.

I enjoy the rare periods when it's sunny in the UK, but I wouldn't refer to a typical cloudy period as a "sun drought" because the sun is what's abnormal

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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Makes for a catchy headline, but you only have to go back to Jan 9, 2024* to find a similarly 'drought free' California: https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/Maps/CompareTwoWeeks.aspx (*Technically slivers of the state in the far north/south were 'abnormally dry' in 2024, a small difference from 2026)

The difference between 0% and almost 0% is mostly a cartographic one

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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I've lived in California my whole life (and the same town for most of that). This was the most rain I can remember in decades and the most "destruction" I've seen caused by it. Between the ground being saturated and wind before/after/during the storms there were plenty of downed trees. We were also down to running sprinklers once a week (lawns are silly), but have had them off entirely for a bit now.

It's rain on already saturated ground plus wind, which turns into downed trees and infrastructure issues instead of just replenishing water

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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As John Steinback said in East of Eden : “I have spoken of the rich years when the rainfall was plentiful. But there were dry years too, and they put a terror on the valley. The water came in a thirty-year cycle. There would be five or six wet and wonderful years when there might be nineteen to twenty-five inches of rain, and the land would shout with grass. Then would come six or seven pretty good years of twelve to…

That passage is such a good reminder of how long this rhythm has been part of California's identity
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