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That’s literally what laws do. You continue to contribute nothing to the discussion.
Conversely I'm arguing your "everyone should just" argument is meaningless for addressing social change and behavior, hence your discussion is adding nothing. Of course neither of us see our communication as meaningless so it's up to the other readers to decide the merits of our text.
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Making someone produce an identity document or turn on their camera for a selfie absolutely tanks your funnel. It's dire. The effect is strong enough that a service which doesn't require that will outcompete a service which does. Which leads to nobody doing it in competitive industries unless a regulator forces it for everybody. Companies that must verify will resort to every possible dark pattern to try to get you o…
> Making someone produce an identity document or turn on their camera for a selfie absolutely tanks your funnel. It's dire. Yes, but again, a good product manager wouldn't just eyeball the success percentage of a specific funnel and call it a day. If your platform makes money by subtle including hints to what products to prefer, and forcing people to upload IDs as a part of the signup process, and you have the benefi…
No one wants to upload an ID and instead is moving to a competitor!
To still suspect that this must be an evil genius plan by OpenAI doesn't make sense.
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> Making someone produce an identity document or turn on their camera for a selfie absolutely tanks your funnel. It's dire. Yes, but again, a good product manager wouldn't just eyeball the success percentage of a specific funnel and call it a day. If your platform makes money by subtle including hints to what products to prefer, and forcing people to upload IDs as a part of the signup process, and you have the benefi…
But the comments here are the proof for xyzzy123 claim: No one wants to upload an ID and instead is moving to a competitor! To still suspect that this must be an evil genius plan by OpenAI doesn't make sense.
Comments on the internet is rarely proof of anything, even so here.
If no one wants to upload an ID, we'd see ChatGPT closing in a couple of weeks, or they'll remove the ID verification. Personally, I don't see either of those happening, but lets wait and see if you're right or not. Email in the profile if you want to later brag about being right, I'll be happy to be corrected then :)
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> Making someone produce an identity document or turn on their camera for a selfie absolutely tanks your funnel. It's dire. Yes, but again, a good product manager wouldn't just eyeball the success percentage of a specific funnel and call it a day. If your platform makes money by subtle including hints to what products to prefer, and forcing people to upload IDs as a part of the signup process, and you have the benefi…
But the comments here are the proof for xyzzy123 claim: No one wants to upload an ID and instead is moving to a competitor! To still suspect that this must be an evil genius plan by OpenAI doesn't make sense.
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I also saw a reddit post once which showed that even if you type something and don't press enter, even that's logged in chatgpt SO I am pretty sure that they might be using that information as well. I don't see any reason for them not to. So if you wrote something to chatgpt and then removed it/ didn't ask it? Yea they might be using that history too.
Last time I checked, most invasive analytics platforms do this by default as soon as you integrate their libraries. Product managers are very hype-driven, and usually the reason stuff like that gets integrated in the first place. I think it's more common than not for the large platforms, to try to log everything that is happening + log stuff that isn't even happening.
I have had passwords accidentally be pasted into chatgpt if I were using my bitwarden password manager sometimes and then had them be removed and I thought I was okay
It is scary that I am pretty familiar with tech and I knew it was possible but I thought that for privacy they wouldn't. I feel like the general public might be even more oblivious.
Also a quick question but how long are the logs kept in OpenAI? And are the logs still taken even if you are in private mode?
It's nonsense and doesn't work. They have "age predicted" my account a couple of months back saying I'm under 18, while I'm a man in my 40s who uses ChatGPT for mostly work related stuff, and nothing that would indicate that it's someone under 18. So now they are asking for a government ID to prove it. Yeah, no thanks.
Do not give your biometric & photos of ID's or videos of your face to these companies. Nether to third-parties. The potential failure modes here are very high risk and not worth it. Better to unsubscribe and let them know why.
For some reason ChatGPT has suddenly started thinking i'm a teen. Every answer it starts out "Since you are a teen I will..." and prompts me to upload an ID to show my age. I'm 35.
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Last time I checked, most invasive analytics platforms do this by default as soon as you integrate their libraries. Product managers are very hype-driven, and usually the reason stuff like that gets integrated in the first place. I think it's more common than not for the large platforms, to try to log everything that is happening + log stuff that isn't even happening.
I don't really know but I don't think most people know it. I have had passwords accidentally be pasted into chatgpt if I were using my bitwarden password manager sometimes and then had them be removed and I thought I was okay It is scary that I am pretty familiar with tech and I knew it was possible but I thought that for privacy they wouldn't. I feel like the general public might be even more oblivious. Also a quick…
That's for sure, most people don't know how much they're being tracked, even if we consider only inside the platform. Nowadays, lots of platforms literally log your mouse movements inside the page, so they can see exactly where you first landed, how you moved around on the page, where you navigated, how long you paused for, and much much more. Basically, if it can be logged and re-constructed, it will be.
> Also a quick question but how long are the logs kept in OpenAI? And are the logs still taken even if you are in private mode?
As far as I know right now, OpenAI is under legal obligation to log all of their ChatGPT chats, regardless of their own policies, but this was a while ago (this summer sometime?), maybe it's different today.
What exactly you mean with "private mode"? If you mean "incognito/private window" in your browser, it has basically no impact on how much is logged by the platforms themselves, it's all about your local history.
For the "temporary mode" in ChatGPT, I also think it has no impact on how much they log, it's just about not making that particular chat visible in your chat history, and them not using that data for training their model. Besides that, all the tracking in your browser still works the same way, AFAIK.