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Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Not only are Apple's services bad, they've becoming inescapable. It's rumored that they'll add ads to maps as soon as next year. Music.app is simply an ad for Apple Music, Books.app is like reading in a Barnes and Noble while someone from marketing looks over your shoulder and their TV app features their own shows to an overbearing degree — everything else is becoming more of an afterthought.

> Not only are Apple's services bad, they've becoming inescapable. As long as you decide to stay in Apple's jail. Next time you need or want a new phone, buy a Pixel 9a for $399 on sale, flash Graphene, and you can be 100% Apple and Google free. It's even better when paired with FOSS apps only like Nextcloud and Home Assistant.

My family has made it clear that I need to be available on iMessage or I'd be right there with you.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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post #41

Not only are Apple's services bad, they've becoming inescapable. It's rumored that they'll add ads to maps as soon as next year. Music.app is simply an ad for Apple Music, Books.app is like reading in a Barnes and Noble while someone from marketing looks over your shoulder and their TV app features their own shows to an overbearing degree — everything else is becoming more of an afterthought.

> inescapable. It's rumored that they'll add ads to maps If you move to the EU you can change the default navigation app on iOS and never see apple maps. A plan to display ads would explain why they region locked that setting.

I'd much prefer the EU to the current situation in the US, but it's not in the cards at the moment.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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It's crazy to think that even if you buy the phone with the highest price premium your are still forced to navigate between ads for basic feature and have a shitty experience.

Despite Apple not needing more money has they have already can reserves more then they can know how to use it

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not only are Apple's services bad, they've becoming inescapable. As long as you decide to stay in Apple's jail. Next time you need or want a new phone, buy a Pixel 9a for $399 on sale, flash Graphene, and you can be 100% Apple and Google free. It's even better when paired with FOSS apps only like Nextcloud and Home Assistant.

My family has made it clear that I need to be available on iMessage or I'd be right there with you.

iPhones default to sending plain old texts to non-Apple devices so it's hardly an issue unless you don't have a phone number.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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This makes no difference, because I can’t remember the last time I installed an app other than for the occasional airline. From 2008-12 it was genuinely exciting to see what new apps were being released every day. Mobile games from that era had cultural impact. I bought $2 apps without a thought. But Apple incentivized monetization above all else and killed that excitement. Now you can’t find a tip calculator that do…

> This makes no difference, because I can’t remember the last time I installed an app consumer manipulation en masse does impact you even if YOU don't fall for it.

yep. if it didn't work they wouldn't implement it

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Do people actually use the app store? Are we not all just searching in spotlight and clicking the first app that comes up (as long as it has 100K/1mil+ downloads) ?

if that was the norm, there wouldn't be ads in AppStore

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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post #206

Do people actually use the app store? Are we not all just searching in spotlight and clicking the first app that comes up (as long as it has 100K/1mil+ downloads) ?

if that was the norm, there wouldn't be ads in AppStore

I'm sure you're right. I'm out of touch because I can't remember the last time I actually had a need to browse (or search) the app store for something. Does it go like this for most people, really?

Open app store > search "food delivery app" > Read and compare the reviews of Doordash, ubereats, jimmyjohns app, pizzahut app, shawarma city app, scam app > Make a decision > download the app ???

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My family has made it clear that I need to be available on iMessage or I'd be right there with you.

iPhones default to sending plain old texts to non-Apple devices so it's hardly an issue unless you don't have a phone number.

iMessage and RCS have some very different affordances, and apple keeps it that way to keep people walled into the system.

Most notably, a single non-iMessage member in a group chat will degrade the experience for everyone significantly.

It's very much an issue in the US.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

iPhones default to sending plain old texts to non-Apple devices so it's hardly an issue unless you don't have a phone number.

iMessage and RCS have some very different affordances, and apple keeps it that way to keep people walled into the system. Most notably, a single non-iMessage member in a group chat will degrade the experience for everyone significantly. It's very much an issue in the US.

Then use a vendor-agnostic platform instead for group chats like Signal or Matrix.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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It's crazy to think that even if you buy the phone with the highest price premium your are still forced to navigate between ads for basic feature and have a shitty experience. Despite Apple not needing more money has they have already can reserves more then they can know how to use it

Two things - browsing appstore is not a "basic feature". It's an entertainment and folks gotta pay for it. I have never browsed Appstore in my life - all i got were either direct links or search by title.

On the "highest price premium" - they can charge it simply because there is no alternative. I have tried android several times and it was was a huge eye opener how shitty and unworkable it is, even in 2025. Boy, they can't even get notifications working properly. So yea, apple charge because they can, can't they?

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