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Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

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Re: Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

#201
You are treating the symptoms by doing this. If you are a serious manager then you should be serious about time management. Making sure your team has discipline is a manager problem and consistently being late shows that there are fundamental, principle discipline problems with your team.

Re: Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

#202
For some larger meetings during the pandemic, managers started scheduling them 5 minutes after to give people time to join, but because people's reminders triggered at the same relative time all it meant was people started joining meetings 5 minutes later negating any perceived benefit.

Re: Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

#203

For some larger meetings during the pandemic, managers started scheduling them 5 minutes after to give people time to join, but because people's reminders triggered at the same relative time all it meant was people started joining meetings 5 minutes later negating any perceived benefit.

This whole thing is giving me a certain Spinal Tap vibe…

Why not set the alarm for 5 minutes prior and everyone shows up on time?

Re: Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

#204

Alternatively, join my meetings on time. You click End Call, then Join. It takes 3 seconds. You get Outlook reminders 15 minutes in advance. Webex/Teams notifications 5 minutes in advance. I’m sure you can make your watch vibrate or something. People at my office join every meeting 5 minutes late because no one expects meetings to start on time anymore. So I guess we’re following this advice in all but the nominally…

I'm absolutely baffled by colleague who somehow manage to be five minutes late to an online meeting while working from home. Because you're right, you get a reminder 10 - 15 minutes in advance, you just need to click the join meeting button, you're already at the computer. We have, for remote meetings, a five minute buffer at the start of every meeting, for people to "settle in" makes no sense, just start the meeting…

TBH unless the meeting has a clear agenda and not just a vague title, I only join it when someone mention me. This allows me to be able to actually work and/or take breaks.

Re: Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

#206
I have found significant frustration since the pandemic in the most unexpected place: the new expectation of punctuality for online meetings. In meatspace, in the before times, if a meeting was set for 2pm in the board room, everyone understood this to mean 2pm was the time to come through the door and chat for a bit while everyone got comfortable. The actual meeting would start at 2:05-2:10.

Online, there is no equivalent to walking in the door for a bit of a chit chat. Everyone just materializes instantly and then we’re supposed to be ready to go by 2:01. I miss meatspace for meetings and the more casual, human-matched pace.

Re: Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

#207
post #196

When I lead a meeting, I start right on time no matter what. Guess what? People come on time.

Exactly. I had a manager who said "Standup with start exactly on time", and stuck to it. And after a couple of meetings with some people coming in a minute or two late and realizing he was for real... everyone started showing up on time. No need for hacks, just better managers

The worst offenders are usually other managers.

Re: Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

#208
post #75

During the pandemic, we had a natural experiment at my previous company. Our org had started an org wise auto ‘meeting starts 5 minute past’ while others had the traditional meetings start on the hour. Also conveniently, we also had the calendar data for internal meetings, internal VC software (not zoom) db that logs the participants when they join and leave meetings and employee function db. I was serendipitously th…

* During the lockdown.

Covid is supposed to have started in October 2019, and no one locked down until nearly six months later.

Re: Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

#210
post #84

I was bad in being on meeting discipline. The only thing that consistently works: start on time, end on time, and don’t wait for late arrivals. If someone joins late, they catch up from notes/recording. There’s a famous example from the Lucasfilm/Pixar deal: a Lucasfilm exec used to arrive late as a power move, until Steve Jobs started the meeting exactly on time without him. The exec walked in 5 minutes later and ha…

> The only thing that consistently works: start on time, end on time, and don’t wait for late arrivals.

Agree, but that doesn't solve the problem of back to back mtgs. In some cases people have to physically move from one mtg room to another, or they need to use the restroom, etc.

Having the 5 min gap really is needed for those types of things.

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